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Subject: Just need a 2nd opinion on my RC
Date Posted: 3/8/2011 6:50 PM ET
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I've recently decided to update my RC to include wrapping the books in some type of plastic.  I did this after the past 3 books I've gotten have been ruined because my mailman never seems to close the lid on our mailbox and the books get covered in snow--and therefore become water damaged before I can get to the mailbox in the evening.

I just want to make sure that my RC is clear, succinct and not subjective.  Any help with wording would be appreciated.  Here is my RC:

For all books: please wrap in some type of plastic to protect from the rain and snow.  (ex: plastic wrap, zip bags, bubble mailers, etc.)

For paperback books only:  Please no ex-library copies.

For hardcover books only:  If they were published with a dust jacket, please include the dust jacket as these will be going on my keeper shelves. 

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 6:55 PM ET
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They seem quite clear to me. I wouldn't have any problem interpreting them.

Gail - who can appreciate #1 with the deluge we had over the weekend, with the heavy rains coming on Thursday, and my mailbox lid is broken and moves with the wind.

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 7:21 PM ET
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They seem clear to me and I don't think they are subjective.

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 7:24 PM ET
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For hardcover books only:  If they were published with a dust jacket, please include the dust jacket as these will be going on my keeper shelves. 

Otherwise they look good. Some people will not want to send you a book if they know you plan on keeping it. Some get annoyed because they don't care why you want what you want and it just makes it longer.

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 7:30 PM ET
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Thanks ladies, I appreciate the help!

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 7:50 PM ET
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At the end you should add:

"Thanks!"

or "Thank you very much!"

or "Thanks! I appreciate your time!"

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 7:53 PM ET
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Does this mean you will accept library editions that are hardcovers? That would be my wondering, though I'm in the minority here. ;-)

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 7:59 PM ET
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Sounds good to me.

As far as rain/snow damage: This has happened to me too many times because my mailbox is leaky. I posted a note for the mail carrier that says: Please place all packages between doors. Thanks.

I haven't had a soaked book since. :)

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 8:08 PM ET
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Does this mean you will accept library editions that are hardcovers?

Interesting question!  Most library books don't come with dust jackets, but if they weren't published with one...

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 8:19 PM ET
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Interesting question!  Most library books don't come with dust jackets, but if they weren't published with one...

my library hardcovers all have the dustjackets inside a clear mylar cover.

I agree, someone might still be confused about that question ...

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 8:24 PM ET
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Yes I will take hardcover library editions. IME these books tend to hold up better than their paperback cousins. That's why I only mentioned the ex-library part for paperbacks.

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 8:28 PM ET
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While your RC's are clear, I'd leave off "please include the dust jacket as these will be going on my keeper shelves. " and maybe even "to protect from the rain and snow.   to protect from the rain and snow."

When I order books I don't care WHY you have the RC, only what it is.  JMO  

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 8:36 PM ET
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Thanks Cozette.  I have removed the portion about my keepershelves from the RC as I agree with everyone's point about it being unnecessary.  I did decide to keep the part about the rain and snow in as it felt more comfortable to me personally.  Sara, I also agreed with your advice to add a statement of thanks at the end. 

Thanks to everyone for responding and taking the time to give me your advice and thoughts about this matter. This is the RC that I decided to go with:

For all books: please wrap in some type of plastic to protect from the rain and snow.  (ex: plastic wrap, zip bags, bubble mailers, etc.)

For paperback books only:  Please no ex-library copies.

For hardcover books only:  If they were published with a dust jacket, please include the dust jacket.

Thank you for your time! :) 

 

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 9:15 PM ET
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Do remember that the spacing seems to show up differently on RCs than what we plan for.  What we see in our little box is not how they look on the other end.  

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 10:03 PM ET
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For hardcover books only:  If they were published with a dust jacket, please include the dust jacket.

What if a book was published with a dust cover, but the sender does not have it.  I'm one of these people who does not want to do anything that might cause issue so I might be worried that because I did not have the dust jacket you might not want the book.  What if the dust jacket is in bad condition, do you still want it?  Maybe say instead:  If they still have a dust jacket please include (no matter the condition...only in good condition....etc)

 

Just my opinion!

 

Tina

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 10:12 PM ET
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I realize you specify the ex-library clause for paperbacks, but I honestly would have questions (and would thus deny because I can't ask you before I accept) if I had a hardback ex-library with a dust jacket. I don't know how I would change it and I don't know how common it is. I do personally error on the side of caution with RCs. Any question and I deny. Just my two cents.
Date Posted: 3/8/2011 10:15 PM ET
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What if a book was published with a dust cover, but the sender does not have it. 

Then they should decline the request.

Sounds good, Heather!

Date Posted: 3/8/2011 10:21 PM ET
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True with at least a dozen hardback books on my shelf, all in very good condition ---  It has no dustcover. Someone gave it to me, or I got it from some old geezer center for a quarter or 50 cents, or ???

And I have no clue whether it was published with a dust cover or not.

But the list seems clear and objective to me.

Date Posted: 3/9/2011 1:05 AM ET
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Sounds good I would accept when appropriate,

From having watched these forums for a few months I would say that if it is a Wishlisted book, I would change the RC to be appropriate only to the type of book (only with the paperback line for paperbacks and only with the hardback line for hardbacks) when I request it.  This isn't to say that you aren't clear, but I've heard several people complain about having their RC's declined because non-forum reader's couldn't decipher what to me would be obvious.  It's a personal thing (I'd hate to be denied the only copy of my book to be posted in 5 years simply because the poster was a newb I got nervous).

Date Posted: 3/9/2011 1:16 AM ET
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You might also consider something at the end along the lines of "If you have any questions, feel free to PM me at breezyhmh." [you can link your user name to http://breezyhmh.paperbackswap.com]

You don't want to ask/require members to PM you, but adding that information in case someone is confused by something we haven't thought of here, can be helpful, like in Shannan's situation, a PM could be sent before declining the RCs. ;-)

 



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Date Posted: 3/9/2011 1:20 AM ET
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What if the dust jacket is in bad condition, do you still want it?

Actually if the RC specifies that the book must come with the dust jacket, then the dust jacket must then meet all regular rules for postability for covers, i.e. not overly worn, no rips/parts missing greater than 1", no water damage, etc. 

ETA: From the Help Center (emphasis is mine):

Dust Jacket:

  • The DUST JACKET (this is not the same as the cover of a book) does not have to be included with a book at all, unless the requestor had this in their Requestor Conditions. 
  • So DUST JACKET condition cannot be considered as part of the condition of a book, unless there were Requestor Conditions on the request specifying that the dust jacket be included.
  • If the Dust Jacket was to be included as specified in the Requestor Conditions on the request, the Dust Jacket must meet the same conditions as defined for the cover, below.

 



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Date Posted: 3/9/2011 1:34 AM ET
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Also, Emily mentioned formatting, so I wanted to post this just for infomration's sake.  I send Feedback to the team a couple months back clarifying an issue I had with formatting an RC.  This is what the Team sent back:

Other members see your requestor conditions with the proper line breaks when they view them before accepting your request. After accepting your request, if they click the "View Requestor Conditions" button, they see them the same way you see them. We aren't able to show requestor conditions that contain special HTML formatting in the overlay window.

So the way you type/space them in that little box in settings is what the member will see when they first accept the request.  But after being accepted, the RC can only be viewed as a smashed together single block of text. 

Subject: Is there something wrong with my RC?
Date Posted: 3/9/2011 7:27 PM ET
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Hi all - I try to be very careful about honoring the PBS condition guidelines when I list books.  After receiving several books that I did not feel I could relist, I added the following requestor conditions to my profile (see below the line, copied right from the PBS condition guidelines). 

I have requested at least 4 books that have been declined because they don't meet my conditions - which should mean that they also don't meet PBS condition guidelines and shouldn't be listed in the first place.

Are my expectations too high?

 

Thanks in advance for your feedback

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Please note - these are not special conditions, I just ask that books meet Paperback swap condition guidelines so that I can re-swap them.  I have received a number of books that I cannot re-swap due to water damage or highlighting.  Listed below are the conditions guidelines copied directly from this site:

  • No damage at all from water or other liquid
  • Not soiled
  • No stains
  • No mold
  • No highlighting, underlining or writing on text pages

Thank you smiley

Date Posted: 3/9/2011 7:33 PM ET
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I don't think your expectations are too high Juli.  I think you probably just got stuck with a few people who automatically decline RCs regardless of what they say.

Date Posted: 3/9/2011 7:44 PM ET
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Juli,

There are members who get very annoyed at an RC that restates the PBS guidelines.

I don't know why ... IMO, I think that is a perfect RC because I don't even have to go check the book first, I can just accept it without even thinking about it.

But, you may very well get a lot of declines with that RC.

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