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Subject: 3 Strikes I'm out? Losing with writing buddies
Date Posted: 10/22/2011 6:24 PM ET
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Date Posted: 10/22/2011 6:32 PM ET
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You might try picking up some writing buddies during NaNo. Especially in the age group forums people are keen for buds. Have a look.

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 1:17 AM ET
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I love being writing buddies. I'm looking for one too. If you are still looking, you can drop me a PM and let me know what you are looking for, and what you are writing. I promise not to drop contact with no warning, that was rude.

Date Posted: 11/9/2011 4:44 PM ET
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Totally been where you are... I've had fanfic writing buddies that just disappear into the ether... I don't know why. Just seems to happen. Always makes you feel insulted. Co-writing can be fun. :) 

Date Posted: 11/9/2011 5:37 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/9/2011 5:54 PM ET
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Yes, totally feel that way, too. But, it happens to everyone, I guess. (Happened to me three or four times.) As I hear about it happening to others, I realize it's not just me, it's just... the pattern. What kind of stuff do you write about?

Date Posted: 11/9/2011 6:05 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/9/2011 6:15 PM ET
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Well, I wrote "The White Rose of Nightfall" which was just published, it's a vampire romance (Amazon.com ). I also wrote a "Peter Pan" sequel that was never published (having trouble with figuring the rights out) and am working on this martial arts one at the moment. :)

Date Posted: 11/9/2011 9:50 PM ET
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Are you self published on Amazon? I'm not sure how Amazon works with that. When I finish this final draft, I will print out and send the manuscript to my manuscript critiquer, and then the hunt is on for an agent. I want to try to publish the 'traditional' way, even though I'm starting to find this process a bit intimidating, even before I start!

I have first drafts done for several more books, and more possible novels after that, so if I can just break through this first part, I should be good to go, lol.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 12:06 AM ET
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I've spent the last fourteen years trying to just get my foot in the door, and have been scammed by three "agents" who turned out to be false. Just getting someone to read your work can be a near-impossible task for an unknown. (Can be done, I'm sure,but it's very hard, and my work was not even read because of being an unknown. So, a few weeks ago, I discovered the create a space website through amazon.com, and realized that it was not some self-publishing scam that charges an arm and a leg--- it's free, actually, unless you want to do extras. And, honestly, it's easy as pie. 

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 12:21 AM ET
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How did you go about finding an agent? Did you have anyone to read and critique your manuscript before you submitted it? I have a lot of questions, lol. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not discuss details here...

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 12:30 AM ET
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Actually, my problem was that no one would even READ it, not that they were turning it down based on it's lack of merits. They kept saying, "You are unknown, we don't take unsolicited manuscripts", ect. And, I went through many search avenues to find agents, but every single one I found that was willing to take on an unknown was a scam artist who was out to swindle someone out of money. And, the publishing world is so secretive, they do not want to give you the details you need to get a foot in the door, you have to go about finding them yourself. I did find a book that has legitimate agents/publishers, and how to approach them, but I never got past the query letter stage. "No, we cannot take a chance on an unknown", so my work was not even read.  It was disheartening, but, I felt at least a ray of hope that no one was saying "your writing sucks" because they could not-- they hadn't seen it. So, I am proud and happy my book is finally out there and look forward to it selling and doing more. :)

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 2:21 AM ET
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What fanfic do you write? I've written 3 'one-shots' for ER, They're on fanfiction.net, and show a pretty good representation of my writing. Let me know if you want to check them out.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 7:04 AM ET
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Well, I write loads of it from many different shows, just for fun and relaxation. :) But I've never really watched ER, so I wouldn't know any of the characters. 

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 7:30 AM ET
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Are you a member of fanfiction.com? If you are, PM me your link so I can check out some of your fanfic, if that's okay.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 7:42 AM ET
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No, I'm not on that one, I'm sorry... 

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 11:17 AM ET
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Carla- did you subscribe or buy/borrow the Writers Market? I've a two NaNO buddies who are published authors and they got agents by using the Writers Market as well as looking on Preditors and Editors. One thing I have been told by my writer friends is an agent never asks for money to read your work or any money up front. They should only get money IF they get the manuscript published then they get a % of those royalties.

And no it is not easy to find an agent, just need to follow their guidelines (as posted on the writers market) and go from there.  I've had short stories read by magazines, nothing accepted and got told it was just too weird and told to submitt something alittle more intune with the main genres and subgenres.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 2:24 PM ET
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That's the book I bought! Yes! I did... and I mostly got turned down by every single one without them having read my work simply for being unpublished. And the ones I could find to take me on--- scam artists.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 3:55 PM ET
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How were the ones you found scam artists? Did they demand money upfront? I need to get a copy of Writers Market - thanks for the reminder Xen!

Carla, have you tried contacting any authors or going to their websites [many have them] to see if you can find any suggestions or advice on getting published? New authors are published every day - someone is reading their work and starting the process. If you still want to go that route, that is. You sound pretty happy with using Amazon, though.

Date Posted: 1/5/2012 12:49 PM ET
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Last year I bought The 2011 Guide to Literary Agents. I presume the 2012 must be out now. I found each chapter useful, and it has a long list of agents, their websites, their expectations (some) and other considerations.

 

Date Posted: 1/14/2012 12:22 AM ET
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Hi all,

 

Coming to this post late, but wanted to toss in that I've had my share of bad luck with critique/writing partners too. Sometimes the chemistry isn't there or, peopel just get busy.

 

I can't relate to having been rejected by an agent/publisher. I've never gotten that far. But members of my local Romance Writers of America group have had many situations. Most, if not all, agree that it's a double whammy. An agent won't look at you if you don't have a publisher interested. But the publisher won't even talk with you unless you have an agent.

 

I know a lot of these writer friends of mine have gone to writin gconferences. We used to have the Maui-turned-Hawaii Writers Conference. That no longer exists, but it was a place to go and at least talk with some agents. If you were prepared, some would request to see a manuscript.

 

Anyway, hope everyone is meeting their writing goals for 2012. :)

Natalie

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Date Posted: 1/19/2012 3:05 PM ET
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I'm in the process of looking for an agent.  There are a number of websites that give you lists of agents, links to their websites and what their criteria are for accepting submissions.  I've only come across a handful that are not willing to take unsolicited manuscripts or those from an unknown.

My biggest problem was actually getting one of them to respond to my query.  This sounds really silly, but I was actually happy when I got my first rejection, because it meant that someone actually did read my stuff.  Even if it wasn't to their tastes, they did read it.

Date Posted: 2/13/2012 1:00 PM ET
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Late as well... I've actually had a huge amount of success finding writing buddies/beta readers/screenplay swapping pals on Twitter. The writing community is massive, active and pretty supportive there. Good luck!



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Date Posted: 2/13/2012 6:15 PM ET
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Stephanie, could I get more info on how to find writing communities through twitter?

Date Posted: 2/14/2012 5:36 PM ET
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SAN- I started out following writers I like, then checked out who they follow & add like crazy. I'll work on a list for actual writer resources/social accounts and post it here sometime this week (stuck on my mobile at the moment.)
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