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Subject: 8th Grade Girl ~ Vampires, Witches
Date Posted: 9/15/2007 10:43 PM ET
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I am working with a gifted 8th grade girl who hates school. She feels like the work is boring, the teachers favor the sports guys and the diva girls (actually, they do), and there are cliques everywhere in her small town (there are). She likes the book Vampire High, and I have just given her Ender's Game. I am looking for other books she might like. She generally enjoys books having to do with witches, vampires, and that sort of thing. Although she is gifted, please don't recommend "adult" books as she is learning disabled in reading and also I doubt her mother would approve. Also, please, nothing with explicit sex. I told her that if she liked Ender's Game I would get her the next one, but after that I am sort of stumped. The vampire novels I know (Anita Blake, for example) are too adult for her at this point. She is tall for her age and has numerous brothers at home (she is the only girl). Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 12:39 AM ET
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You might try Darren Shan's Cirque du Freak series.  I've read the first one, and it was fairly enjoyable.  (I am well beyond 8th grade, lol.)  It does involve vampires and paranormal things.  Written for YA audience, so no explict sex.

She might also like the Artemis Fowl series by Eoin Colfer.  No vampires, but it does have various fae creatures and us humans.  It might be a bit young for her, but I enjoyed it, so... 

If she likes Ender's Game, you might want to try Ender's Shadow next, rather than Speaker for the Dead.  I think the Shadow books tend to be more similar to Ender's Game, than the original sequels.  Xenocide and Children of the Mind, especially, might be rather difficult at her level.  If you've read them all, then you'll know better than I of course.

 

If I think of some more, I'll let you know!

Hope this helped!

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 12:46 AM ET
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My daughter is in 12th grade and just finished the first 2 books in a teen vampire series called Vampire Diaries by L.J. Smth (I think that is the author's name), there are 4 in the series.  I just bought her three books in a series by Angie Sage - Septimus Heap book one Magyk; book two Flyte; and I don't have book three in front of me so I am not sure of it's title.  I think it is Katie MacAlister that also writes as Katie Maxwell and she is part of an anthology that is titled Prom Dates from Hell and it has vampires in it and is for teens.  I know I bought a book for my daughter called Vampire Kisses, but am not sure of the author.  Hope some of this helps.  I think Rachel Caine writes teen vampire books, but am not sure.  I of course know lots of "adult" vampire authors...

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 8:03 AM ET
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What about the Edward/Isabella series by Stephenie Meyer.  I read the first one for a friend (she couldn't understand why her teenage daughter was sooo into the books and she isn't a reader)...now at 36 I'm hooked!  There are now 3 books...Twlighit, New Moon & Eclipse.  There are some other YA ones too...I believe Vampire Academy by Richelle Mead is also an YA....haven't read it yet...but her adult books are great.  Blood and Chocolate is also a YA.  Great and Terrible Beauty & Rebel Angel is not about a vampires but is a bit supernatural another good story (I read it myself). 

If you go into amazon and type any of the above books in and scroll towards the bottom...there should be list & guides...many of those guides are titled.."great teen books everyone should read "...etc  HEre is one such guide...good luck!

www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/2ID85P6IQ1SUM/ref=cm_syt_fvlm_f_1_rlrsrs0/102-9145524-1817712

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 2:35 PM ET
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The "Jennifer Scales" books are about a teen who shapeshifts into a dragon, and are a bit lighter than most vampire fare.

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 2:43 PM ET
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I also recommend L.J. Smith.  She wrote a few trilogies, a series, as well as a duology.  All of her books have to do with witches, vampires, or have at least some kind of myth or fantasy woven into it.  Most of them have love stories woven in, but they are all fairly tame (no sex at all).  My personal favorite was the Night World series.  There are 9 in all, and a 10th that was never published.  I also remember really enjoyed her duology, The Night of the Solstice and Heart of Valor.  Those last 2 were about 4 siblings who get caught up in King Arthur and Morgan le Fay mythology come to life.

I don't think any of her books are in print anymore, and I don't think they're listed here either, but you can buy them used on Amazon.com. 

I hope that helps!  Good luck.

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 3:13 PM ET
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L.J. Smith

Twilight Series by Stephenie Meyers

Cirque de Freak by Darren Shan

Vampireville Kisses by Ellen Schriber

Jennifer Scales by MJD and Anthony Alongi

Artemis Fowl by Eoin Coin

Diane Duane books

Diana Wynne Jones books.

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 4:00 PM ET
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Thank you so much for your suggestions. I am going to print them out and make a master list. Then I will see what, if anything, she has alread read. Any additional suggestions are also welcome!

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 4:01 PM ET
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Ender's Shadow is the "parallel" book about Bean, isn't it? If so, I think you are right - that would be a better second book for her. Good suggestion.

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 4:37 PM ET
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Theres a series of books tied into the Blair Witch Project. They seem like theyd be corny at first but they are actually well written. My niece (16) and I both love them. Theres also a series of books written by Amelia Atwater Rhodes. She was 13-14 when she wrote the first one. They are about vampires.

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 6:17 PM ET
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re Ender's Shadow -  Yes, it is the one about Bean.  It is followed by Shadow of the Hegemon (about Ender's older brother Peter); and then Shadow Puppets and Shadow of the Giant, which involve Peter, Bean and others of Ender's original group.  They should be read in that order and are written at a similar level.  There is also "First Meetings in the Enderverse" which is a collection of 4 novellas including the original Ender's Game.  The other stories involve Ender's parents (2) and Ender's first meeting with Jane.

 

Couple of other series:

Simon R. Green's Nightside series.  Sort of H.P. Lovecraft mixed with Dashiel Hammet with some dry Brit humor.  No explicit sex, but they are somewhat violent and those descriptions can have some graphic gore. 

I know its straying far from the paranormal, but another SF series that she might like is Timothy Zahn's Dragonback series.  It involves a 14yo boy, Jack, and his alien symbiot , Draycos, who looks like a large dragon tattoo on Jack, but can become fully three dimensional to help Jack in his adventures - as long as he returns to 2D form within 6 hours.   The book titles are all "Dragon and ...". The first one is Dragon and Thief.  There are 6 books out so far.    If you can find it used, "Dragonback Bargain" is an omnibus edition of the first 3 books.  This is a young adult series, so it would be age appropriate. I read them recently and enjoyed them.

 

Date Posted: 9/16/2007 8:40 PM ET
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I'd have to disagree with the Nightside series Rick mentioned because IMO they get really violent the farther on into the series you get. More than one of the secondary characters are unapologetic killers.

Though it is outside the witches and vampires subgenre I would suggest taking a look at Robin McKinley's - Blue Sword and Hero and the Crown. Both stories center around teen/young women outsider types and if I'm remembering correctly at least one (Harry from Blue Sword) is much taller than most girls to the point of being nearly as tall as many men so she might find a kindred spirit.

Date Posted: 9/17/2007 2:38 PM ET
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There is a series called Circle of Three by Isobel Bird that has to do with witches.  It is YA, and there are at least 13 books so it would be a series to continue reading for a while.  I found one by accident while at Borders, and ended up adding them to my bookshelf since I do like books with this theme (and am way older than a YA!!)

 

chris

Date Posted: 9/17/2007 9:37 PM ET
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Thanks! I met with her today and we went through the first group of suggestions. Some of them were alaready on her own personal "wish list"!  I will copy the next group for the next time we meet. I think I will read each one before I give it to her and then we will have something to talk about when we discuss them. She seemed to be very pleased with most of the suggestions and today is the first time I saw her smile more than once. Also, she said, "Maybe I should lend you some of my books." That is great progress! Thanks again everyone - you have really helped a LOT!

Date Posted: 9/18/2007 6:15 PM ET
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Meg Cabot writes a couple of paranormal series for young adults.  Neither are witches or vampires, but she might like them.  Mediator and 1-800-Where-R-You are the titles to the series.

Date Posted: 9/19/2007 7:30 PM ET
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Just wanted to add Mari Mancusi's vamp series. 

Boys that Bite!

Stake that!

Girls that Growl (oct 2007)

Date Posted: 9/19/2007 10:28 PM ET
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The Good Ghouls Guide to Getting Even and Good Ghouls Do by Julie Kenner are good YA books.

eta: It's a vampire series set in an Austin, TX high school.



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Date Posted: 9/25/2007 4:13 PM ET
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You might try   The active-enzyme, lemon-freshened junior high school witch [by] E. W. Hildick

I believe it was published in the 70's and is now out of print, but you might be able to find it at your local library ( I know mine still has a copy ).  This is one I remember fondly from my pre-teen years.  Boy does this ever make me feel old!  I searched the PBS listings and it is not listed in their database, I don't know why, but I know this is the correct title and author, as I looked it up online.

I also remember enjoying Half Magic by Edward Eager, this might be geared toward a slightly younger reader, but is a fun tale about four cousins who discover just how much trouble magic can be.  Again this is an older book, written in the 50's, but it should still be available at your local library.

Happy reading,

Rebecca

Date Posted: 9/26/2007 3:37 AM ET
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I second the Stephenie Meyer recs. Her books are fantastic for that age group, as well as much older ages.

The Christopher Pike series "The last Vampire" consists of six books that I remember being in book love with when I was younger, along with his "Remember Me" series and the standalone "Witch"

 

And always there is "Blood and Chocolate" and "The Silver Kiss" by AAC

Date Posted: 9/28/2007 1:06 PM ET
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What is her learning disability?

 

Some of Tamora Pierces books. 

Trickster choice

Trickster queen

Her circle series.  (the first 4, but I'd look through them)(the second 4 are a bit more intense and probably could wait a few years)

The proctector of the small series(4 books)

I'd also let her read Beka Cooper as well

 

I'll think on this some more.  My daughter has read protector of the small and loved the series.  I'm waiting till she's older for her to read the trickster series, but 8th grade she should be fine.  The circle series I'd probably let my daughter read now(3rd grade)

 

how bout Raymond e Feist, Magician series.  The one that starts off with pug. 

 

Mercedes lackey(Diana Tregarde is a wee bit to horrorfying so no on that) But what about some of her valdemar stuff or her vows and honor stuff?

 

Robin McKinleys the hero and the crown and the blue sword????

Date Posted: 9/28/2007 1:20 PM ET
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I forgot

 

Jane Yolen and L engle

Date Posted: 9/29/2007 10:25 PM ET
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Rebel Angel and A Great and Terrible Beauty were both very good - the third book will be out I think next year.  I am also well beyond 8th grade, but enjoyed those books.

Date Posted: 9/30/2007 9:00 PM ET
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I just wanted to say I didn't think the Silver Raven Wolf Teen /witch series was a good one. It was a bit violent for me I would hate to think what someone younger thinks. (I'm going to read some of the suggested!)

Date Posted: 10/1/2007 11:58 AM ET
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I know many Pagans that don't like srw. 

Date Posted: 10/14/2007 5:49 PM ET
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OK..I seen where someone suggested Blood & Chocolate to you.  I just wanted to let you know that 'yes' this books is considered YA...BUT.. if it was a movie they would have to rate it R.  I only on page 150 right now and I am blown away that this book is YA.  It has cussed over and over, and not light cussing.  And though there hasn't been any explicit sex yet, it talks about teens having sex alot.  I'm really enjoying the book, but as a parent, I wouldn't let anyone under 18 read it.

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