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Subject: ? about extra "buddy" credits for books on my WL that I'm #1 in line for
Date Posted: 12/28/2007 1:21 PM ET
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I know we cannot offer any extra credits to get a book ahead of anyone else- but I was wondering if it is considered ok to offer an extra "buddy" credit to someone who can offer me any of the books on my wishlist that I am #1 in line for. I would love to receive a wishlisted book & thought this might be extra incentive for someone to post a book that they have that is on my list that Im next in line for.  I'd even be willing to offer some sort of trade.

Im next in line for a bunch of books & Im not to sure how often they come available.Ive been pretty patient but there has been several books that were on my wishlist for 8+ months or so & never became available so I just bought them at the bookstore & took them off my list to make room for other books I wanted. Im constantly updating my wishlist this way.

Anyways if it is OK please let me know & if it is NOT ok- please let me know nicely. Im not trying to cheat the system I'd just like to use up some PBS points to get a book/books I really really want instead of having to spend cash for it at the bookstore. The local Barnes & Nobles already has a wage witholding on my biweekly paycheck! (joke). :-)

Have a wonderful day!

Dawn

Date Posted: 12/28/2007 1:42 PM ET
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Hi Dawn - Hey, better to ask than to just go ahead and do, right?  It's a good question and no one should jump on your back for asking it.  No, unfortunately, you can't do this.  I tried to find the wording in the help center, but basically, it's one book for one credit.  You can't offer more than one and no one can ask for more than one.  Sorry!

Date Posted: 12/28/2007 1:48 PM ET
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I looked at your Wish List (I love to do scrapbooking and rubber stamping, I added a couple of your WL books to my WL too).  I have "Helen of Troy" I just picked it up - I'll bump it to the top of my TBR and send it your way when I'm done.

I've added you as a buddy.

Date Posted: 12/28/2007 2:23 PM ET
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Here's the info from the help center ~~

A credit is the unit of exchange on this swapping site.

 

  • One credit = 1 (bound) book.
gnomie - ,
Date Posted: 12/28/2007 4:01 PM ET
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Thanks for the help. Ive seen several "deals" before on the book bazaar page & have known of people who sent highly wishlisted books to buddies & therefore bypass eveyone else on the wishlist- so I know that people bend the rules somewhat- but I did think I'd ask what the general consensus was before attempting to try & make a deal myself.

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

Now hopefully some of my wishlisted books that Im next in line for will come available soon!!

*fingers & toes crossed* ;-)

 

Dawn

Date Posted: 12/28/2007 4:22 PM ET
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have known of people who sent highly wishlisted books to buddies & therefore bypass eveyone else on the wishlist- so I know that people bend the rules somewhat-

This is actually okay.  You are allowed to post a book directly to someone's wishlist.  You just can't get extra credits for doing so! 

 

Date Posted: 12/28/2007 5:03 PM ET
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You could try posting a list in the BB saying you really want the WL books, but you cannot offer anything for it. It would get your WL noticed anyway. If the PBS powers noticed credits buddied right after WL books were posted to a member, they may go in and take them away anyway.

Date Posted: 12/28/2007 8:01 PM ET
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Do you have a lot of credits? Are your books on autorequest? I've seen people w/a note in their forum signature " I have credits and all my books are on autorequest" to encourage people to check out their WL. I looked at yours and I don't have any of them in the tbr pile.

gnomie - ,
Date Posted: 12/29/2007 11:45 AM ET
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Great advice guys- Thanks! :-)

Dawn



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gnomie - ,
Date Posted: 12/31/2007 12:24 AM ET
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Had to chuckle about people checking out my wishlist & writing that they've now added several of the books I have down. Isnt it funny that we do that?- sometimes when I check out someones wishlist- I see a book & think " now that sounds interesting!" Sadly my WL is now maxed out at 200 books so I cant add anymore! lol

Date Posted: 12/31/2007 4:04 AM ET
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Just to clarify, you can't offer an extra credit for a book here.

Help doc:

Can I offer/ask more than 1 credit for a book?

No.

  • A bound book "costs" 1 credit at PBS (no exceptions)

  • An audiobook "costs" 2 credits at PBS 

    • some "children's-length" audiocassette items cost 1 credit each

Offering to "pay" (or asking a requestor to "pay"--see below) more than "PBS price" for a book is not permitted. 

Why?

  • If the book is Wishlisted, offering more than the PBS "price" for the book may allow members to leapfrog over others in the Wish List for the book. This obviously is not fair.

  • Even if the book is not Wish Listed, a "free market" system could lead to "bidding" for a book, and auctions are NOT permitted on PBS.
  • One reason is that auctions are subject to state laws, and as PBS members belong to various states, this could be illegal.
  • The other reason is that we want all members to have a fair chance to get books on PBS.  Pitting those who have lots of credits to spare against those who don't have a lot of credits at the time goes against the very spirit of PBS--the fair sharing of books. Everybody equal.

Asking for more than "PBS price" for a book is considered bookselling

  • Bookselling is not permitted at PBS

  • If you feel that your book is too valuable (or too costly to ship) to be swapped for "PBS price", you should not Post it here.
  • If this is a matter of postage cost (your book is heavy), remember that you can also request a "heavy" book with the credit you get for sending yours--so it all evens out.
patticom - ,
Date Posted: 12/31/2007 7:44 AM ET
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What about offering a direct swap--is that ok on the bazaar???  I've been wondering about this on swap-a-dvd too, because there are so many people wanting specific types of films, and they have no RC at all over there.  I'd love to offer a heavily waitlisted film in direct exchange for someone on my WL *if* it meets my RC that I can't list!!  :p  But I fear I would get in trouble for even suggesting such a thing, since it is sorta kinda working around the system, kwim?

 

Date Posted: 12/31/2007 7:50 AM ET
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Help Center sez:

That has the following text: 

Yes, but only if you both subscribe to Box-O-Books.

  • "Creditless" swaps are permitted ONLY between two Boxers.
  • Using the PBS site to conduct an under-the-table book-for-book swap without using credits would be in direct violation of PBS policy, and would put both members' PBS accounts in jeopardy.

Why is this?

  • We have worked very hard on this site, and it has cost us (and continues to cost us) a great deal of money. The Box-O-Books service is one of the few sources of income the site has generated to offset our financial losses, and we are still deeply in the red. Without some financial support we will not be able to continue the club. We are trying to keep the site free for our members, and Box-O-Books was one innovation intended to help us do so.
  • PBS relies greatly on the "honor" system among our members. We are pleased to say that the majority of PBSers are honest and above-board; if that were not so, the club could not continue.
  • We hope that the rule makes sense to you, and that you understand that we are not being unfair or greedy. It is simply that if enough members did this, we would have to close down the club.
patticom - ,
Date Posted: 12/31/2007 9:50 AM ET
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Maybe that's how it will be solved on swap-a-dvd also, that there will be some sort of "boxer" service offered there as well.  In the meantime, thanks for the reminder--I forgot about that (still quite new here myself, really!!).  :)