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Subject: ?? about MP3/IPODS
Date Posted: 5/7/2008 6:31 PM ET
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So I bought an IPOD today.  I like listening to audiobooks while exercising, cleaning or doing yardwork.  I'm tired of dealing with bulky, temperamental CD players.  I go through them like crazy because I drop them or they fall out of the carrior or come unclipped.  

But it just occurred to me that if I pay to download audiobooks then I can't resell them or post them here.  Which is a plus side of CDS.  So my question is: if I buy MP3 CDS-can they be downloaded to the IPOD?  Then I can post them here or sell them when I'm done.  Or are MP3's completely different than IPOD?  I'm technologically challenged. 

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 6:32 PM ET
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The program Itunes can rip the tracks from the audio CDs in a format that your IPOD can read :)

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 6:34 PM ET
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From MP3 CDS right? Or regular CDS too?  (I am so clueless about this stuff)

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 6:38 PM ET
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Regular too :)

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 6:40 PM ET
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Technically speaking, it is very easy to rip a CD into MP3 format.  There are many programs available to do that.

Legalities, however, are another matter.  If you copy the CD then sell it or give it away, you no longer own it and the copyright rules say you cannot have the copy any longer. 

As a practical matter, it probably will not cause you any problems though.

 

Joe

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 7:00 PM ET
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I don't intend to make copies and then sell the copies. I was just thinking if I bought the audio-cds and then loaded them onto my IPOD then I can post the original disc here.  Rather than paying the download fee and then having no resale value so to speak. Then I can at least get something back for the cost.

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 7:25 PM ET
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Yes, exactly.  If you copy the CD and then get rid of the original, you are no longer the legal owner and are technically not allowed to keep the copy.   This is essentially the same as sharing music over Napster or one of the other peer-to-peer networks and we all know what happened there.

 

Joe

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 7:55 PM ET
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An iPod is just an overpriced MP3 player.

Legally speaking, if you sell/transfer ownership of any digital media, you are supposed to remove it from your device first.

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 8:35 PM ET
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I didn't by the super duper 20,000 song one.  I usually only listen to audio books once.  So I'll be deleting them as I need room.  Not that I think the audiobook police will be inspecting my IPOD. 

And I found out to my chagrin that you need to be online to transfer CDS to the IPOD.  I guess I'll have to do the transfers late at night until we move and I can have DSL on my computer.



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Date Posted: 5/7/2008 8:56 PM ET
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You don't have to be online to transfer cds to the ipod--although it can look up the cover art better that way--I copy music cds to my ipod offline all the time

 

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 9:32 PM ET
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Hmm. The online manual said you had to be online and logged into ITUNES even the transfer a CD.  I hope you don't have too.  So far it's been downloading ITUNES for 2hrs and says it still has 3hrs to go.  Man I hate dial up. I can't wait to move. 

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 10:26 PM ET
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You can be logged into iTunes without being online. I do not know about being offline and all, because i have DSL and it's never 'offline' but i would imagine that all you need is iTunes and a computer. Sometime when my internet is down for maintenance i'll have to find out for myself, because i can't see why they would make it that annoying.

Date Posted: 5/7/2008 11:39 PM ET
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You can be offline to use iTunes, this is especially helpful when you just want to listen to music or sync your ipod. The only time you "need" to be online is to purchase music (which will also require an apple or aol login) and to update software.

 

ps I am technically challenged as well and I was not looking forward to figuring out an ipod. But once I got the hang of it, it's the best piece of technology I own! Also, some people are nervous about entering their credit card numbers on itunes, if you are as well, just go to any store and buy itunes gift cards and add them into your account.



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Date Posted: 5/8/2008 3:36 AM ET
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It's possible the instructions mean that you have to be on-line to put audio purchased from iTunes/Audible onto your iPod. This would be because of the licensing issue. If you're loading your iPod with audio from your own CDs, you don't have to be on-line. There's no license to confirm.

An iPod is just a better-looking MP3 player.  :)

Date Posted: 5/8/2008 4:45 AM ET
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If you're online, then iTunes will load all the song titles, etc. for you - no typing.  But you CAN do it yourself, manually, offline.

 

Date Posted: 5/8/2008 11:02 AM ET
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Have fun with your ipod they are great.  I have a 1 gB Nano which only holds about 200 songs or so.  And I never thought I would be able to fill it up.  Til I found out my CDs can be loaded on their then it was filled in a couple of days.  Listening to audiobooks on ipod is neat idea, never thought of that. 

I don't think you would need to be online to transfer from your cd to ipod. 

As others have said it would technically be illegal to keep a digital copy of something and sell or trade the original material.  Same as it illegal to sell or trade digital media on sights like limewire etc.  However it is a risk MANY people take that they will not get caught.  Besides in your case you no longer have the original and if your computer crashes you lose your digital copy.  So that is something to think about (ie. don't just load audiobook onto computer and trade it wait until you listen to it to trade it just in case).

Subject: How to Convert AudioBook CDs onto your iPod
Date Posted: 5/8/2008 5:47 PM ET
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I transfer CD audiobooks onto my iPod constantly.  We have an excellent library and I get them from there.  After I'm done listening to it on my iPod I delete the book. 

To import books onto your ipod first on the iTunes Toolbar you should select "edit>Preferences>Advanced>Importing".  Then at "import using" select "AAC Encoder".

Then after placing the CD in the PC's CD drive iTunes will show the track listing of the CD.  You then "file>select all" to highlight the tracks.  Then you click "Advanced>Join CD Tracks".  This is so the CD will record as just one file instead of as multiple tracks. Then right-click and select "convert to AAC file".

So you have to do that to each CD however after doing each CD be sure to go into the "Music library" and "rename" the title to at least show the CD number.  That way you'll know which title is 1, 2, etc.

After all the CDs have been imported you need to select them all and "get info".  Make sure you've checked the first three boxes at the bottom...compilation, don't shuffle, and something about staying in place (something like that so when you play a song you don't look your place in the book).

If you're happy keeping your books in the "music library" then you're done however if you want the book to show up under the "audiobook library" you have to rename the extensions to "m4b".  I have a program that will rename the extensions all at once.

This is so much more than what the original post was about but I thought I'd share because it's a question that I'm often asked.  And pleas-s-s-e if anybody know an easier way to do this let me know!!!! 

Date Posted: 5/8/2008 7:26 PM ET
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Well I tranferred a couple audio of CDS to my IPOD and it was pretty easy.  I just set up ITUNES, put the CD in, hit IMPORT CD and it automatically loaded it onto the IPOD when I hit SYNC.  Very Cool. I could not get it to transfer the one I downloaded from the library. I guess I'll have to keed listening to that one on the computer.  I actually listened to quite a bit of it today while playing with the IPOD and loaded up ITUNES & such.  Maybe I can download the next  from the library direct to my IPOD but I don't  think so.  They have a time limit and appear to be set up so you can't do that. But I'll try.

Subject: an Ipod limits some things you can do though :(
Date Posted: 5/9/2008 7:40 AM ET
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I wanted an IPOD till I found out the free net library servises like overdrive.com and netlibrary are not IPOD compatible. You need to be able to download and play wma mwdia and an ipod is not windows based....

Date Posted: 5/9/2008 9:24 AM ET
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Jeanette...that was very helpful info! I had transferred all of my Harry Potter audiobooks onto my ipod and I now see that I could have saved a ton of time!! I am copying your post and emailing it to myself so I know what to do in the future.

Date Posted: 5/9/2008 11:53 AM ET
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iPod isn't windows based, but there is plenty of freeware out there to convert a wma into an mp3 so that you can listen to it on your iPod.
Date Posted: 5/9/2008 4:16 PM ET
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The only downside to overdrive and the library ones is that you are stuck listening to them on your computer as far as I know. I couldn't even get it to download to a CD-it said it wasn't allowed.  But I'm so glad to know I can buy audio CDS-load them up on IPOD and be able to post them here when I'm done. Although I think I'm going to get a few from Audible.com because they have some that I want that aren't available new anymore and are going for $25+ on ebay.  I'm too cheap to pay that much and they aren't available in the library system. I only buy them on clearance new or if I find a good deal on Ebay or at HalfPrice books.

Date Posted: 5/9/2008 6:52 PM ET
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One reason I use Audible.com instead of buying CDs is because Audible.com is much cheaper.   For $14.95 you can get one free book each month, and for $24 something you can get two.  An audiobook on CD costs about $35.   So, even if I can trade it afterward, it still isn't worth $15 to $20 more for me. 

I've never heard of Overdrive, but my library used to subscribe to Netlibrary & I was able to download those books onto my MP3 player and listen to them.  You couldn't listen to them on an ipod though.  They weren't compatible & they didn't allow you to convert them.

Date Posted: 5/9/2008 8:07 PM ET
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I wanted an IPOD till I found out the free net library servises like overdrive.com and netlibrary are not IPOD compatible.

but my library used to subscribe to Netlibrary & I was able to download those books onto my MP3 player and listen to them.  You couldn't listen to them on an ipod though.  They weren't compatible & they didn't allow you to convert them.

This is part of why we went with SanDisk at our house.  I didn't want locked into iPod software (too expensive for many libraries) or iTunes (too expensive for me.)  Also, Sandisk seems to have a better battery life.  We have a few different SanDisk mp3s and  use Rhapsody for music downloads.  Everything else (videos, audiobooks) I just run through my computer and the software that came with the mp3s (SansaMedia Converter.)

 

Date Posted: 5/10/2008 8:41 AM ET
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Overdrive is a terrific benefit of the local library.  Even though it doesn't work on the iPod I download the book to my treo phone and listen to the books on it.  That's even better because when I go out for my walks, which can be pretty long, I use to have to take both my ipod and my phone now I only have to take my phone.