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Subject: So..not accepting RC anymore
Date Posted: 2/25/2008 4:35 PM ET
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I have tried not to be one of those who is bitter and sees RC and denies that right away. But you know it gets hard. I always get slightly nervous with i see RC but this last group the same person asked for two books off my shelf. The RC stated they shouldnt smell Musty. Well they sure didnt smell musty to me. They smelled like regular books. Not brand new mind you but like books.

Sure enough today  both books were marked Recived with a problem "they smell musty"

Sorry for the Vent but...they smelled like typical books tome...

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 4:38 PM ET
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Maybe they were confusing "musty" with "book smell"!  Too subjective, I think.  Sorry you had to deal with that, Katie.  :(

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 4:42 PM ET
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just goes to show that it is all subjective.  I would probably turn down that RC too unless it was a new(er) book.  thank goodness they didn't ask for a 20+ year old book, those are definitely going to smell musty, or at least like an old book

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 4:42 PM ET
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Katie, don't worry about it. Just tell the person that they didn't smell musty to you and they had no water damage. If the person complains to R&R, I can't imagine that they'd find the RC's to be ones that could be met outright...

Sorry about the hassle, though. I'm hoping that people who keep marking things with "Does not meet conditions" will get tagged as problem receivers if they keep it up.



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Date Posted: 2/25/2008 4:51 PM ET
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actually the one book was from 1986

the other 1997 so not as old but still 11 years old! There was no water damage at all and they were used but in good conditon. I did politely respond back that yes indeed there was no water damage and no musty smell as far as i could tell. Just a used book smell.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 5:30 PM ET
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I agree "musty" is subjective and unless it had been a nearly new book, I would have refused too. The requestor probably just doesn't know the difference between musty and 1986 "old"!!! I'm sorry this happened to you, Katie. I did send you a PM.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 6:55 PM ET
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1986 is old.  *Sigh*

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 6:57 PM ET
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LOL, Kari, I was thinking something similar!

In my opinion, some new books right off of the shelf have that musty, book smell! I wouldn't blame you for turning her down.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 7:09 PM ET
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Man Im older than old then I came out in 1981!.

Seriously I do my best to accept all RCs that I can but if they are subjective I dont accept them cause musty to them may be old to me. Or like new to me may be raggedy to them. I dont want the hassle.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 7:39 PM ET
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Personally, I'm not a book sniffer.  So, any RC that indicates smells generally gets denied as it can be very subjective.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 7:56 PM ET
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I had a request today that I would have been really doubtful about. I was so glad she had more than one condition, because the first one really threw me off. It said they only wanted books in "like new condition". The book I had was in really good used condition, but to me "like new" means you can't tell it's been read. Thank goodness their other request was that the book come from a pet free home. My little kitty made that a concrete disqualification.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 7:59 PM ET
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In response to Jane K.'s comment, is there a way that R&R can track RWP and/or doesn't meet conditions?  I've only had one complaint and I immediately refunded the credit to the person, but I'm guessing it would be fairly easy to make LOTS of complaints, and just assume that you'll get your credit back.....

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 8:49 PM ET
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I agree, Aerika, "like new" means "never read" to me, too!

Sorry about your bad experience, Katie.  I would be very wary of a "not musty" condition, too, because it seems like it could mean different things to different people.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 9:03 PM ET
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While I don't exactly like a musty smell, I would prefer it over the inky smell on some new books.  I guess we are all different.  Sorry that happened to you.  Just like on ebay, you can never please them all.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 9:17 PM ET
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Thanks guys. Oh i know 86 isnt that old for people LOL but for a book thats a pretty good age book..

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 9:44 PM ET
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Erin, I'm sure all that data is in the system somewhere, but I have no idea what sort of automatic triggers the system might have for suspending accounts. In this case, I wouldn't report the recipient, and I doubt that Katie has an ongoing track record of RWAP, so I'd just get on with life.

If the recipient were extremely rude, harrassing, used obscenity, threatening or did something else that would warrant complaint, I'd bring it to R&R's attention. But for the most part, I'd just let it go.

Date Posted: 2/25/2008 10:22 PM ET
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yup i let it go and i have only had one other RWAP and it was also a RC

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Date Posted: 2/26/2008 6:04 AM ET
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I have turned down a couple of "smelly" RC because it's just not worth the hassle.  The only one I'll check is smoke smell since IMHO that's pretty hard NOT to smell (unless you are smelling it with a lit cigarette in your hand LOL).  ;)  My mom is highly allergic to cigarettes, too, so I can sympathize with that one.  :)

I may get my first RC issue soon... she had a long blathering list of no this and no that but this or that is ok... I almost turned it down just for the length of the RC essay, but I actually read the thing and it seemed to be ok so I gave her the benefit of the doubt....  hope to not lose my credit, but oh well.

Date Posted: 2/26/2008 8:39 AM ET
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I'm sorry that happened to you, Katie.  That really stinks.

Date Posted: 2/26/2008 8:51 AM ET
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I turned down one that wanted a "sniff test" the other day too. DH and I both have colds right now and I can't smell a thing. Also like others have said just cause it smells fine to me doesn't mean it will to the person requesting it. Sorry that happened to you :(

Date Posted: 2/26/2008 10:39 PM ET
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Thanks guys well I havent heard anythign since. which i am glad for. just ah well gotta deal.

Date Posted: 2/26/2008 11:16 PM ET
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You have all inspired me to remove my condition of no cigarette-smokey-ness and just hope for the best. If need be, I'll use a Bounce sheet as a bookmark!

That said, I have received a mildewed book and a VERY underlined book in past transactions. Both still readable but not re-postable, which is discourteous and a bit sad. I have had someone snark at me because a perfectly fine hardcover I sent had no dust jacket. (That's the way I rescued it--a popular wishlist book-- from the GoodWill Store). Someone else demanded their credit back because a paperback's cover illustration was different than they expected (it was the UK edition, apparently, but same inside and same ISBN) and they wanted their whole series to match! C'mon, folks!

I'm not going to send out any book in a condition I wouldn't be delighted to receive myself. Easy!

Peace today, Lisa

Date Posted: 2/26/2008 11:19 PM ET
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Lisa, just a piece of advise, I've rec'd smoky books before but the thing that realllllly knocked my socks off was when someone sent a book with a sheet of fabric softener in it.  It was soooo over powering!

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 1:23 AM ET
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Ditto! Cigarette smoke odor you can get rid of, but fragrance will never leave!

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 8:11 AM ET
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Using fabric sheets is a good way to cause people to refuse to trade with you again! Absolutely PLEASE reconsider that thought!!!

Fragrances have more of an oily base that seeps into the paper and is almost impossible to remove, if not impossible. I've revived and removed cigarrette smell many times, but never cleaned a fragrance from a book! I have allergy problems with chemical smells, and while cigarette activates them, it's nothing like perfumes & fragrances do.

I've been known to have to leave places, including church & stores, because someone was heavily perfumed. It's really hard to go anyplace sometimes. And I've heard many others say that they cannot deal with perfumes either.

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