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Subject: Address Book Wrappers - First Class vs Media Mail
Date Posted: 6/4/2009 12:11 PM ET
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Hello.  When I go to print a wrapper for a book, it automatically prints either the words First Class or Media Mail on the label.  Is there anyway to have it not do that?

It seems like I am always having to cover those up somehow...  (I mail first class unless the book is too heavy, in which case I send it media mail).

Date Posted: 6/4/2009 12:17 PM ET
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It will print one or the other based on the weight of the package. There is a field on the "Print Wrapper" page that shows the estimated weight of the package. You can change the weight to under 7.0 ounces, to get it to say "First Class". Anything over 7.0 ounces is printed with "Media Mail"



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Date Posted: 6/4/2009 12:17 PM ET
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I don't think so.  The system is set up with a preference for media mail.  Mailing First Class gets expensive unless the book is less than 6 oz.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/4/2009 12:23 PM ET
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Thank you!  I'll just change the weight of the book to get it to print what I want.  Have a good one!

(usually I find the cost difference between first class and media mail to be less than a dollar so I figure I might as well send first class - I like to think of a person excited to get the book and being pleased to get it quickly)

Date Posted: 6/4/2009 12:35 PM ET
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IIRC the rate break is at 7 oz. @ $2.24.  The cheapest Media Rate is 'weight not over 1 lb' @ $2.38

Usually, PBS will choose First Class when it's cheaper - but not always.  You may wish to check the weight, as they are not always correct in the system.



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Date Posted: 6/4/2009 12:48 PM ET
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I wanted to clarify my reply above. I recommended changing the weight to get the wrapper to say "First Class" or "Media Mail". This will work, as long as you are printing a wrapper without postage.

But, if you are printing postage, you probably don't want to do that, becasue your postage will print out with the wrong amount.

Date Posted: 6/5/2009 10:34 AM ET
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Since I take all my books to the PO to purchase postage, I've found it doesn't matter what the label says (first class or media mail in the stamp section -- or even if it is exactly correct).  The PO weighs and tells me the cost and they put a postage sticker right over the label anyway.  

Sometimes (rarely) I choose first class over media mail when the book is lightweight, but not quite lightweight enough for PBS to suggest first class.  Not always, but I find that most of my media-mailed books arrive within a week (sometimes as quickly as first class mail). 

ETA:  If I think there's a likely chance that I will send the package first class, I trim off the "Media Mail" notation at the bottom of the label before taping it to the package.  And if I decide at the PO to send it Media Mail anyway, they stamp it with their little red "Media Mail" stamper (in fact, I think they do this even if I keep the Media Mail notation on the mailing label.  I'll have to watch more carefully next time.) 



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Date Posted: 6/5/2009 11:06 AM ET
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I always take my packages to the post office so I guess it doesn't really matter too much anyway... Thanks for everyone's responses.

Date Posted: 6/5/2009 4:34 PM ET
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If I think I may wish to change the media mail stamp to first class, I don't tape over that portion of the label.  My post office uses a rubber stamp.

Date Posted: 6/5/2009 10:40 PM ET
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I'm using the machines (APC?) and I'll use the edge of the printed postage stamp to cover the label after their scale tells me the weight.  If the weight is over the 7 oz, I go back to the screen to buy a stamp for the media rate.

Subject: Change Media to First Class
Date Posted: 6/18/2009 9:06 PM ET
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Will there be a way to change the printed Media Mail to First Class when we print out our wrappers?  I think EmilyKat is saying that she tapes over the Media Mail. 

I've been using stickers to cover over the media mail and buying a first class stamp, but I'd rather not have to do that.  Will PBS make a button to choose / compare Media vs First Class mail?

Thanks! 

Date Posted: 6/18/2009 10:16 PM ET
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If you bring it to the post office they will stamp over the media mail if I choose to send it 1st class.  I found that there is usually a 3 cent difference between the two unless it is a hard cover and then there is a $5 difference.  I always ask the difference in price if it is a few cents then I select first class so it will get there faster but it if it is $5 - I opt for media mail. 

Date Posted: 6/18/2009 10:30 PM ET
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There won't be a button added, I don't think, because the postage that PBS uses is done through another service.  So it's their system that is being used and it's based on weight.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/19/2009 12:19 AM ET
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My point is:

On one hand, if we buy first class vs. media through the secondary service, they'd get money for buying through the secondary service.

On the other hand, if we don't buy through the secondary service, who cares if it says media or first class on the wrapper (as long as it's correct).

I just don't want to stand in line (the only way we can get media mail at our post office) and would rather use the self-service (only does first class).

Ah well, I just don't like my pretty packages to have the media mail taped over, so I thought I'd throw the suggestion out.  :) 

Thanks for the replies!  I appreciate it!

Date Posted: 6/19/2009 12:59 AM ET
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Karen:  The ladies at my PO said that I could use the automated postage machine at the PO for Media Mail, but I would need to know in advance how much postage I needed to buy. 

For example, PBS says that my book weighs 8.6 ounces and estimates the media mail postage to be $2.38.

Before I leave home, I check Usps.com to see what the price for media mail is for a book weight 8.5 ounces to 10 ounces. (And write that down, bring it with me.)

At the automated machine, I weigh the package, and it weighs 8.8 ounces, so I purchase the amount of postage needed for an 8.8 ounce media mail package. Then I apply the postage, and write media mail on the package.

The only problem, is that i *always* forget to bring the media mail cost per ounce with me, so I end up having to go to the window, anyway.

Date Posted: 6/19/2009 1:02 AM ET
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I just don't want to stand in line (the only way we can get media mail at our post office) and would rather use the self-service (only does first class).

You can use an APC and just a buy a stamp for the correct amount. As long as you've verified the weight and amount of postage needed before hand, there is an option on the APC to buy a stamp of a different value. You just type in the media mail amount and print it out. I usually print a few extra so I can just slap them on books from home. The date on it is a purchase date, not a post mark, so they don't go stale and they are considered printed postage for the 13 oz rule so you can just blue box the books no matter what the weight is.

I think PBS will always default to the cheapest rate class for the labels.