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Subject: Another ? about book conditions
Date Posted: 7/21/2007 4:19 PM ET
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My mother bestowed upon me several books. They are all in great condition...aside from one thing. My mother has a habit of pen-marking her place on a page with a little dash like this -------- by the paragraph she stops at. I'd say there are about a dozen marks throughout each book. None are on the writing, but rather in the white margins.

Are these books deemed unpostable?

Date Posted: 7/21/2007 4:38 PM ET
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no, writing is NOT  allowed in books

so they are not postable

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Last Edited on: 7/21/07 4:41 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 7/21/2007 4:40 PM ET
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you could offer them as incentives in the Book Bazaar

here is the info from the help center on your question

Pages:

  • No torn pages
  • No loose or missing pages
  • No writing or highlighting on text pages
    • a signature or note on the flyleaf is OKAY
    • writing or highlighting on the pages is NOT OKAY
      • Exception: if it is a textbook or workbook, these are expected to have highlighting/writing
        • if you post a textbook/workbook, the condition must be described to the requestor in a Personal Message
        • AND the described condition MUST BE AGREED TO before the book is sent
        • This is the one of the ONLY two cases in which a PM exchange about a book is required before the book can be sent(the other is for cookbooks--see below).
Date Posted: 7/22/2007 8:37 AM ET
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I wouldn't class pen marks as writing.   I would post them and when requested let the request know and they can decide if it's acceptable to them.  It would be acceptable to me...

 

Lisa

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 11:03 AM ET
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Writing is not allowed.  Any pen marks on the pages are writing.  I would not wish to receive this book without knowing in advance - that's why the book bazaar is your best bet.

I'm a little tired of "I would accept this" as an excuse to break the rules.  Sorry if that sounds harsh, but the rules here are set by R&R, and we all need to honor them.

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 11:09 AM ET
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pen marks are writing....please don't change the rules.

I would not want a book with writing in it....any sort of writing...I want my books to be clean of any stains, marks, writing, etc...and since this is what it says in the rules of this site I am fully justified in asking for this...and so is everyone else

I wish people wouldn't post books against the rules.

Writing in a book is not allowed.....it doesn't say the writing of words...or anything...it says No writing or highlighting on text pages

 

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 11:30 AM ET
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None of the books were posted. I ASKED A QUESTION. I'm sure it might frustrate some of you who have been around a long time to see the same questions pop up now and then, but not everyone has been around that long. There's nothing wrong with asking, It's better to ask a question than to guess and guess incorrectly. It's a real turn-off to get your head bitten off for asking a question. Yes, I got my head chewed right off my neck for asking this question, but I will leave out names. I DIDN'T BREAK ANY RULES BY ASKING A SIMPLE QUESTION. I read the help center, but it said nothing about pen marks, so I came here. I'll just be sending these wonderful books to the soup kitchen. I'm sure someone there will apreciate them.

I wasn't trying to change any rules. This is a forum for QUESTIONS. Folks should feel like they can ask them without getting nasty messages. Sheesh.

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 12:27 PM ET
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 I'm sorry you felt that you "got your head bit off." But don't worry about it.

  Sometimes the "PBS Forums" turn into the "PMS Forums." But I think we are all guilty of that now and then! :)

  Asking a question was fine, and if people were upset it was probably because they have had a bad experience with a book sent to them in bad condition. Don't worry about it, just do what you want with the books. You can list them in your notebook as "Free with an order from my shelf" or haul them to Goodwill, or whatever.

  And sorry, again, for getting yelled at. I am sure whoever it was didn't mean it, they were just having a "day" I am sure.

 

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 12:33 PM ET
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Michelle, I'm sorry.   I swear that I wasn't talking about you personally.  I know that you didn't list the books.  I know that you just asked a question.  Again, I'm sorry.  I just had to say something else on the subject.    I was speaking about the other people that do list these books.

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 12:40 PM ET
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Me too....

It wasn't this thread that got me upset...it was PM's about this thread. :(

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 11:05 PM ET
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 I've bought books at a used book store that had pen marks in them and paid half the cover price for them.  I've gotten pen marks on pages from a pen falling from behind my ear on a brand new book I just bought new.  Guess if that happens again I should just throw the book away.

Date Posted: 7/22/2007 11:42 PM ET
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I certainly wouldn't throw them away!   That's kinda drastic.   But I would offer them free with an order from my shelf.    That way I'd be within the rules AND get a credit I might not get otherwise.  : )  Win - Win situation!!

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 7/23/2007 3:22 AM ET
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This is probably one f the more legitimate questions asked recently! :)  I know it's frustrating that they can't be posted like that, but as they say, "thems the rules".  They'd make lovely 2 for 1 books, though!

Date Posted: 7/23/2007 10:04 AM ET
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wow, see I never would have considered a little pen mark as writing.  I don't do this and don't pay attention if there are pen marks in books I get (not writing, just marks).  while I can understand the rules this seems a bit hard because there are books that are probably sent in worse condition than that

Date Posted: 7/23/2007 11:44 AM ET
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I am SURE (by reading the forums) that there are books sent out that are worse.  Actually, those pen marks wouldn't bother me a bit,  IF I recieved one.  But I'd never POST one like that because as L said "them are the rules."   All I ask, want, beg is that books that are posted meet the guidelines.   The rules are very clear and simple.  IF I make a mistake and list a book that the reciever doesn't think meets the guidelines, then I'd gladly return their credit.  But it'd be a "mistake" and not done on purpose.

Date Posted: 7/23/2007 12:38 PM ET
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2 for one? As in "buy a book from my shelf and pick one of these for free"?

I could do that.

Date Posted: 7/23/2007 1:15 PM ET
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Michelle, put up a post in the book bazaar.   (look at the threads at the top of the list...they give you pointers) 

They'll most likely get ordered because of that.  I have had good luck with the bazaar.

:-)

Date Posted: 7/24/2007 12:06 AM ET
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hmm... I got a highly doodled in book.  But I needed it and I did not need it to be in great shape...so it just didn't matter to me.  I think the doodling was on the covers and inside covers though, not the text pages...

 

Give your Mom some post -it notes to mark her paragraphs with!