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Subject: Another Condition Question
Date Posted: 9/9/2009 6:48 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/9/2009 6:54 PM ET
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If the book is postable (and it sounds as if it is) - there is no need to send a PM.  If the requestor has any particular needs above and beyond PBS postability guidelines, they should have an RC in place.  They know they're oordering a 30 year old pb - I would just send.

Amy
Date Posted: 9/9/2009 7:05 PM ET
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What caviglia said. I've ordered older books from users knowing full well that what I'm getting. I wouldn't worry about it.

Subject: a 30 year old book
Date Posted: 9/9/2009 7:12 PM ET
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ditto on what everyone else said...send it!

Date Posted: 9/9/2009 9:23 PM ET
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I will select the latest mail by date and PM the person to tell them if a book is old.  I always state that I will mail it if I don't hear back by such a time.  I've had some out of print paperbacks that were also showing their age.  Postable, but old.   The PM is both to advise them on the age and to cover myself incase the age surprises them.  Your case might be that the books were on the person's Wish List for so long that they are no longer interested or found them elsewhere.

Date Posted: 9/9/2009 10:58 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/9/2009 11:23 PM ET
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I think they'd already KNOW it was old since it was published in 1980.   I am not in favor of PMing people about books that are clearly postable.   You run into exactly what is happening here.  Get down to one person wishing and then what?  OR you send a PM and the person never gets back to you and then what do you do? 

I'd just send it if I knew it was postable. 

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Date Posted: 9/10/2009 10:25 AM ET
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I would pm if i was a little worried about the condition of an older book.  I think it is better safe than sorry.  I actually just did pm about one last week.  I decided I would not mail it if they did not respond and they did not respond.  It was not a wishlist book, so the person pm'd the next week and said she wanted it, so it is off to her now.

But if the resulting email/cancellation process is annoying to you, I don't think that you need to do this.  It is true that most people are aware when they are ordering an older book, but it is also true that some are not.

I think if you cancelled the transaction, the requestor did not lose their place in line, but if they cancelled they did lose their place in line.  Since you say it went to the next few people in line, I would think that the requestor cancelled, because if you cancelled and re-offered, I think it would try to go to the same 1st person in line, unless you rejected based on a requestor condition.

Date Posted: 9/10/2009 12:54 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/10/2009 1:02 PM ET
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My plan is to continue to PM when I think I should, and to offer to cancel the request myself so that the requestor does not lose their place in the WL line....that would make me feel better about it..

So, the part that comes after this is ... you cancel the WL offer, then your book is taken off your bookshelf, and then you re-post it ...and then it is offered to the SAME person again (unless they have received a different offer for the book in the meantime). So, you get into this endless loop.

If people have special requirements about Book Condition for books they request, they will write these into a RC, which you can accept or reject as you feel appropriate. Other than that, if a book is postable, I am with the camp that says 'Don't PM" about it. It's not how the system was designed to work and it just causes lots of problems that you have to work around.

My feeling is that people expect books to be postable, and if they have special requirements, they are supposed to put those into a RC. If they don't have a RC, then they are already saying that all books that meet PBS rules are OK.



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Date Posted: 9/10/2009 4:07 PM ET
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Date Posted: 9/10/2009 4:16 PM ET
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So many books - like Ray Bradbury - have many printings. They are still being printed,  and you can find copies that are 30 years old and yellow and have foxing. So, when a book is still in print - or has been printed recently - then I don't post. I have alot of old sci-fis that are classics but, being old, are yellowing. I also know that might come as a nasty shock to a person who just saw that book in the bookstore. I'll buy a new copy even though I have the book becuase I can't stand yellowing.

So, even though an old, yellowing book with foxing is technically allowed to be posted, I would not (and do not) post a 29 year old book if it had even been reprinted more recently.

And that doesn't even get into books that are so old they do not have an ISBN. That's another topic.

Date Posted: 9/10/2009 5:08 PM ET
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So, even though an old, yellowing book with foxing is technically allowed to be posted, I would not (and do not) post a 29 year old book if it had even been reprinted more recently.

And that doesn't even get into books that are so old they do not have an ISBN. That's another topic.

I post these, mail them out with no problems, and request/receive them too. I realize that some people have had issues with requestors not knowing what they are requesting .... but so far I haven't. Also, I have ordered quite a few books from here that are too old to have an ISBN ... and I'm glad that people are posting them!!!

I have an old sci-fi classic sitting next to me right now, published in 1912 and reprinted in 1970 ... no ISBN of course, that I will post as soon as I have finished reading it. No other copies in the system of this book at all right now.