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Subject: another requester comment
Date Posted: 1/9/2012 8:25 PM ET
Member Since: 10/20/2009
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I haven't received any requests for books in a long time, so was very happy to get one today.  That is, until I read the conditions.  I have a No Smoke request, and have mailed many books with requests.  But this one was - i don't know- alittle rude or something.  The directions were very clear about what the condition of the book had to be, the size of the book  and and what the dust jacket had to look like.  Then is said something along the lines of 'it had better be right or I will complain - you will lose the credit and the book because it costs $3. to mail it back.' You know, my book met all the conditions, but I turned it down.  Too bad for both of us!

Date Posted: 1/9/2012 8:45 PM ET
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Not too bad for you, too bad for the requestor.  I can't imagine with an RC like that, people are bending over backwards to send them books.

Date Posted: 1/9/2012 8:58 PM ET
Member Since: 10/13/2010
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Wow, I bet they have a lot of people deny their requests!

Date Posted: 1/9/2012 9:03 PM ET
Member Since: 8/6/2006
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I can't imagine anyone sending them a book.  Who'd be willing to take a chance on that RC?  <smh>

Date Posted: 1/9/2012 9:19 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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I bet they have just had a lot of people send the wrong book and then argue with them. Obviously the RC is not the place to take out frustrations about past trades on future senders, but I can usually just read frustration in RCs like that.

Date Posted: 1/9/2012 9:27 PM ET
Member Since: 9/22/2010
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I just turned down a RC for "no excessive wear and tear" which I thought extreme, as who decides what "excessive wear and tear" is. But that was mild compared to the one you received.

After reading the RC you received, maybe I'll change my RC (currently no tobacco smell) to:

"Books must still be in the shrink wrap that Amazon sent them to you in."

Date Posted: 1/9/2012 9:32 PM ET
Member Since: 10/20/2009
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In the box where they ask the reason for turning down the request, I just said that it was a used book.  I mean, it's hard to get a used book with a dust cover that has No bent edges, you know?  I hope she or he gets the book from someone.

Date Posted: 1/9/2012 10:44 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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I turn down ones that basically accuse me of wrong doing before I've even accepted the request.  I will gladly accept, non-smoking, must have dust jacket etc..,  But that one sounds like they're itching for a fight with you.

 

Date Posted: 1/10/2012 1:22 AM ET
Member Since: 11/4/2009
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Personally, RCs are a red flag. I turn them all down and wait for people who just want a good used book to read.

Date Posted: 1/10/2012 7:01 AM ET
Member Since: 12/29/2008
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I never used a RC until I received a book I thought should have been tossed.  Also I had one with an inscription when I asked for a like new book for gift giving.  The  people in the forum really raked me over the coals for that one even tho at Christmas people ask for like new/new dvd's for same purpose.  Geez, give a person a break.  Some of us are on limited incomes, or out of work.  I guess when I send out books that look excellent am hoping for the same.

Date Posted: 1/10/2012 8:04 AM ET
Member Since: 11/23/2008
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I also added RC after receiving some questionable books.  The golden rule says "no writing" so inscription should not have been allowed.  I usually donate these books to Salvation Army or pass on to a friend.

Date Posted: 1/10/2012 8:07 AM ET
Member Since: 2/13/2007
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I received a request from that sender also months ago which I, of course, declined. I understand the frustration that members feel when they receive a book that does not meet posting guidelines, let alone their RC but when a requestor begins the request with what will happen if they aren't happy, I consider that not just rude but defintely threatening and I would have no problem contacting TPTB about that requestor.

Date Posted: 1/10/2012 8:35 AM ET
Member Since: 8/31/2008
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I just want to add that inscriptions are allowed at PBS.  I used to have an RC against receiving books with inscriptions.  I no longer have that RC. 

Also, while there are a lot of forum posts about RCs, must members do not have one.  I think less than 10% of the requests I've received had an RC.

Date Posted: 1/10/2012 10:17 AM ET
Member Since: 4/7/2008
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My thoughts on RCs are as follows:

  • PBS allows us to have them, so if a member has one it doesn't mean they are picky or selling the books elsewhere, etc. It just means this person has certain requirements. If my book meets the RC, I definitely accept. I've NEVER had any problems with these requestors.
  • The way members have a right to have an RC, I have a right to decline them for any reason. If an RC is too long or has a list of requirements, is confrontational or vague, then I don't accept it and move on.
Date Posted: 1/10/2012 11:09 AM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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Like Valerie says. Inscriptions are allowed.  When they say writing they mean notes (or scribbles) on the text pages.  Names, book store markings, name plates, inscriptions are all allowed. 

Date Posted: 1/10/2012 1:53 PM ET
Member Since: 7/28/2006
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Just to pop in and back that up with the good ole Help Center (highlighting mine):

Pages:

  • No torn or chewed/gnawed pages
    • yes, that does say "chewed/gnawed".  That means no pet-chewed (or human-chewed) books.
  • No loose or missing text pages
    • for travel guide books - maps if designed to be detachable may be detached, but must be included.
  • Cover not water damaged (there may be no water damage to any part of the book)
  • No writing or highlighting or underlining on text pages
    • a signature or note on the flyleaf or inside front or back cover is OKAY
    • an author's signature on the title page is OKAY
    • writing or highlighting or underlining on the text pages is NOT OKAY
Date Posted: 1/11/2012 12:15 PM ET
Member Since: 12/10/2009
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I actually prefer books w/ inscriptions or name inside,,, I 'm weird that way.

Date Posted: 1/11/2012 6:25 PM ET
Member Since: 8/25/2009
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I think I know what you mean.  Sometimes I enjoy highlighting and marginal notes. 

Date Posted: 1/11/2012 7:24 PM ET
Member Since: 1/20/2009
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RCs, I think, are always going to be a touchy subject. I don't mind them, have some of my own, and have never seen any evidence to back up the claim some people make that people with RCs are more likely to complain about a book. At the same time, some go way too extreme in their RCs, to the point where even the most lenient among us couldn't accept them. Unfortunately, these extreme examples make them look bad for everyone, such as in this case.

To date, I have never had to mark a book RWAP due to my RCs. They're always either postable and comply with them, or weren't postable to start with and my RCs made no difference to whether I had to mark them RWAP. So, where the "RCs are a red flag" line of thought comes from, I'm not quite sure. The most common culprits (in my experience) are water damage, stains, and highlighting on the text pages. I'd like to think we all recognize those as automatically unpostable, whether we have RCs in place or not.

Date Posted: 1/12/2012 4:56 AM ET
Member Since: 11/18/2010
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I once had a requester that had an RC that went somethin' like, "No books that look like they've been read more than once or twice."  I turned it down.  The fact is, the book requested was purchased new, by me, and I had only read it once, but who knows if she'd think so?

Date Posted: 1/12/2012 12:00 PM ET
Member Since: 10/26/2011
Posts: 2,110
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To date, I have never had to mark a book RWAP due to my RCs.

I have never had to RWAP because of the RCs I have either.  I initially didn't have them, but when I got a book that aggravated my asthma because the smoke smell was so strong I added an RC to make sure that didn't happen again.  And it hasn't. 

I try to accomodate RCs whenever I can, but I think everyone has their limits.  And insinuating that I may send you something that's a problem before I even send it is a red flag for me.

Date Posted: 1/12/2012 1:11 PM ET
Member Since: 1/7/2012
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sisnce i joined a few days ago, i have had 7 books requested, everyone of them had an RC..i private messaged every person, and gave them full description of what the book looked like, and offered to not send the book, everyone asked that the book stillbe shipped. I dont want a soaked, smelly ripped up book, but I do realize, i am asking for a free book, that is used. If i really want to read the book, i will accept it. who cares if its wrinkly?. Or if there is an inscription?.. As long as it doesn't effect  the readability of the book, it should be ok.

 

I guess, i was put off a bit, by the requests , However, i also mailed out two brand new books, read once, by my daughter or myself. I would be elated to recieve a perfectly new book, however, its a swap, and not a store.

Date Posted: 1/12/2012 1:33 PM ET
Member Since: 10/26/2011
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sisnce i joined a few days ago, i have had 7 books requested, everyone of them had an RC..i private messaged every person, and gave them full description of what the book looked like

First, hi and welcome!  Normally you should not have to private message for an RC.  For example, my RC asks for only books not currently in a smoking home and no overbearing smoke smell, if you can look at your book and know you don't smoke and it doesn't smell like smoke then send away!  Personally I feel that if an RC is so vague that it requires a private message, I would just decline the swap.  But don't be put off by RCs, most of them are very reasonable and able to be interpreted and understood pretty easily. 

mistie -
Date Posted: 1/12/2012 2:00 PM ET
Member Since: 9/27/2007
Posts: 2,017
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I dont want a soaked, smelly ripped up book,

Books such as described do not meet PBS posting requirements - RC or not makes ne difference.

Firstly, imjustjulz, welcome to PBS

It is likely, since you just joined, that most of the books requested from you were wishlisted. As described on a previous thread, it is possible that requests with RC's "bunch up" at the top of wishlists (when a book gets posted, the poster may decline due to the RC, then theses requests build up) - I think you will notice that when you get requests from the FIFO queue, your percentage with RC's will be substainally less.

When someone has an RC, it is not necessary to PM them ,either you book does or doesn't meet their RC's - decide that, and proceed accordingly. It you're not sure, or you just don't like the wording you are free to decline the request. If you do PM, then they don't reply, it can get awkward.

i am asking for a free book,

well, no, you are exchanging a credit that has "cost" you a  book and postage for a book

As long as it doesn't effect  the readability of the book, it should be ok.

Readability doesn't enter inot it - PBS has very clear rules on what does/and does not make a book postable on this site

 

Date Posted: 1/12/2012 3:30 PM ET
Member Since: 1/7/2012
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Thanks for the warm welcome everybody!

I find myself extremely excited to get credits and order books for myself:) ( or my daughter, who has somehow high jacked my lists)

 

 

 

When someone has an RC, it is not necessary to PM them ,either you book does or doesn't meet their RC's - decide that, and proceed accordingly. It you're not sure, or you just don't like the wording you are free to decline the request. If you do PM, then they don't reply, it can get awkward 

 

I guess, being a new member, i am a little nervous, and don't want  anyone to be upset over what i send! some of the books requested, were well read, and well loved, so Out of caution, i asked before shipping, i don't want someone upset with what i am sending, so I guess, I always err on the side of caution. lol

I guess the readability factor, is more my opinion, and i understand what PBS regulations are, but I as an overzealous reader, find, that i read a book, and then am done. I used to have keepers, but now, am just as happy to pass it along:) I have quite a few "unpostables" because a mouse got into my bookshelf! but its just the corner, of the cover, and no pages, and some of the books were expensive, and are in perfect condition otherwise..so, I didn't list those. But two of those books, are in the top 100 wishes list, ..( if i was wishing for a book , and someone had it sitting around, i would love to have it, even if its a slightly damaged used book:)



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