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Subject: asking price for book
Date Posted: 11/7/2007 10:46 AM ET
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If I have a popular recently published hardcover, can I ask more than 1 credit for it?

Thanks,

Chip

Date Posted: 11/7/2007 10:48 AM ET
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Sorry, Chris, but you can only get one credit for a book, whether it's hardcover or paperback.  Audio books are 2 credits.  Sorry :)

Date Posted: 11/7/2007 10:53 AM ET
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Here's the info from the HC that explains the one book for one credit system

Can I offer/ask more than 1 credit for a book? No.
  • A bound book "costs" 1 credit at PBS (no exceptions)
  • An audiobook "costs" 2 credits at PBS 
    • some "children's-length" audiocassette items cost 1 credit each
Offering to "pay" (or asking a requestor to "pay"--see below) more than "PBS price" for a book is not permitted.  Why?
  • If the book is Wishlisted, offering more than the PBS "price" for the book may allow members to leapfrog over others in the Wish List for the book. This obviously is not fair.
  • Even if the book is not Wish Listed, a "free market" system could lead to "bidding" for a book, and auctions are NOT permitted on PBS.
  • One reason is that auctions are subject to state laws, and as PBS members belong to various states, this could be illegal.
  • The other reason is that we want all members to have a fair chance to get books on PBS.  Pitting those who have lots of credits to spare against those who don't have a lot of credits at the time goes against the very spirit of PBS--the fair sharing of books. Everybody equal.
Asking for more than "PBS price" for a book is considered bookselling
  • Bookselling is not permitted at PBS
  • If you feel that your book is too valuable (or too costly to ship) to be swapped for "PBS price", you should not Post it here.
  • If this is a matter of postage cost (your book is heavy), remember that you can also request a "heavy" book with the credit you get for sending yours--so it all evens out.
Date Posted: 11/7/2007 10:58 AM ET
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thanks for the replies, i appreciate it...

Date Posted: 11/7/2007 11:05 AM ET
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"If this is a matter of postage cost (your book is heavy), remember that you can also request a "heavy" book with the credit you get for sending yours--so it all evens out. "

 

What does that mean exactly?  Thank you for answering in advance.

Date Posted: 11/7/2007 11:10 AM ET
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It means that when you get your credit for mailing your "heavy" book - you can turn around and order a "heavy" book.  That your paying more to mail out a heavy book to another member - but when you order your heavy book someone else will be paying more  to mail a book to you.

Date Posted: 11/7/2007 11:13 AM ET
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Well I didnt post it but I can answer the last question. If you mailed a book that was really heavy and spent a good bit on postage you can then order a book that is similar in size with the credit you earn. You can figure that out pretty easily cause most books list the number of pages. If the one you sent was 600+ pages you can order a 600+ page book with your credit.

Personally I dont have time, patience or will to worry that much about recouping a couple bucks. I just figure it all works out in the end. I order all different kinds of books and have mailed out all different kinds of books.

Date Posted: 11/7/2007 8:48 PM ET
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Not here.

ETA--I don't mean I won't swap them here(it's not enough of a price difference shipping wise to bother me), but that you can't ask for more here:) Somedays I know what I mean, just don't know how to say it.

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Date Posted: 11/7/2007 9:20 PM ET
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Same here, Lynn. I don´t swap my Hardcovers here.

Date Posted: 11/7/2007 10:14 PM ET
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I've swapped lots of hardcovers, and gotten lots of hardcovers.  I agree with Chris - I figure it all works out in the end.

Date Posted: 11/8/2007 8:46 AM ET
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In general, I don't post anything here that's going to weigh more than two pounds when I ship it.  I goofed the other day, though, and mailed out a book that weighed 2 lbs, 1 oz.  I was annoyed with myself, but then remembered that I got the book free from a neighbor, so I quit complaining.

Date Posted: 11/8/2007 9:12 AM ET
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Every once in awhile, if somebody has ordered from me, I'll check their Wishlist to see if I have any items on it ... especially heavy hardcovers. I realize that this bypasses the FIFO system and I don't do it all the time but it just makes good economic sense in certain cases. The Media Mail rates really favor bulk orders.

Date Posted: 11/8/2007 2:47 PM ET
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"In general, I don't post anything here that's going to weigh more than two pounds when I ship it.  I goofed the other day, though, and mailed out a book that weighed 2 lbs, 1 oz.  I was annoyed with myself"

Hey Holly, go easy on yourself ok? You cost yourself a whopping $.34 extra by going over 2 lbs!   ;-)

For Media Mail, up to 1 lb costs $2.13. Each additional pound costs only $.34 more. Heck, I've shipped a PDR (now THAT'S a heavy book), but I'd think at least for most of us, we probably don't have so many big honking heavy textbooks as to bankrupt ourselves at 34 cents a pound... so don't beat yourself up too much. :-)

YMMV, of course!

Date Posted: 12/12/2007 11:33 PM ET
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I don't post many hardcovers. Of course, I prefer collecting and reading paperbacks so I have a lesser selection of the HC. I agree it doesn't seem fair that the more expensive hardcovers cost earn you the same credit for cheaper paperbacks. I just find them harder to wrap, more expensive to mail, more expensive to purchase

Date Posted: 12/13/2007 2:47 AM ET
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"Heck, I've shipped a PDR..."

Not sure what that is, but we just shipped a HC of Peter the Great! DH listed it, I probably would not have. Thing weighed in after wrapping at 3.7 Glad we didn't add another layer of paper! hahahaha Wonder how many books I have to receive to average out that weight!!! hahahaha

patticom - ,
Date Posted: 12/13/2007 3:29 AM ET
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I was frankly surprised when we first joined to discover that hardcovers are the same.  I misunderstood the recommendation from a friend and really thought she had said that paperbacks are 1 credit, harcovers are 2 credits, and audio books are 3 credits.  Personally, that would make more sense to me, but what do I know?  ;)  More than half of my first 10 books were hardcovers and though I'd like to have not messed with mailing heavier books I was glad to get rid of them.  Being military less book weight is better for that next big move!  :)  Keep me in mind when Harry Potter 6 comes out on paperback, k?  ;)  LOL

patti

Date Posted: 12/13/2007 8:14 AM ET
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I agree with Chris, I list 'em as they come and order 'em as they come.  I haven't kept track, but I feel fairly confident it's all evened out. 

I will say tho, that I had a few super huge really heavy cookbooks that I just donated, didn't even bother listing them here, but that was because I didn't feel like wrapping something that big and heavy *shrug*

Date Posted: 12/13/2007 8:53 AM ET
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I've mailed all sizes of books, and found that Media Mail is cheap enough, and I believe it's an extra .47 per extra lb. (don't quote me, but it's pretty cheap).

I had so few...it didn't make a huge difference.

I also noted that some Hardcovers are quite light??? Must be the paper and binding used. It does even out. But I've also sent out beautiful "coffee table" types in great condition, that were intended for gifts, and it just made me happy to get feedback about how pleased they were to give this as a gift and thanked me profusely.



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Date Posted: 12/13/2007 9:31 AM ET
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PDR is probably "Physicians Desk Reference".   

Amazon indicates the 2007 edition ( isbn 1563636603 ) weighs in at 7.6 pounds.

Date Posted: 12/13/2007 9:33 AM ET
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I also noted that some Hardcovers are quite light?

Yes, the smaller book club editions often are less than a pound.

One thing that really makes a difference is if the book has glossy pages (clay coated).

Date Posted: 12/13/2007 11:33 AM ET
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I've sent out some hardbacks that were actually lighter then some of the tradesize paperbacks I frequently send out.  I have 2 really large Italian cookbooks that I'm sure would get snapped up pretty quickly. But they weigh a good 3lbs each.  They will probably go to Half-price books or be donated to the thrift store before I move.  I'm not even sure how I'd wrap them up.

Date Posted: 12/13/2007 11:48 AM ET
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I prefer hardcover books...they're so much easier to read!  I send and request hardcovers anytime I can. Postage is not that much more for Media Mail.  Also, usually the hardcover books I receive are in excellent shape.

Date Posted: 12/14/2007 9:45 AM ET
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I would say wel over half of my shelf is paperback.  I figure it will all even out in the end.  I have a couple of larger books I might or might not post.

Date Posted: 12/14/2007 9:58 AM ET
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I've received quite a few hardcovers here and believe it or not, with the main genre I read, a lot of the paperback/softcovers I've ordered are heavier than the hardcovers (Margaret George, anyone?!)  I've sent out the same so, yeah, it really does all work out in th end.

Date Posted: 12/14/2007 2:53 PM ET
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I have no problem sending out hardcovers either.  It really does not cost that much more, and I order them sometimes, so it wouldn't be fair of me not to send them as well.  I just mailed out the new Charlaine Harris hardcover and it only cost like $2.32 or something.  There are a ton of people in line for that.  I'm always happy to see a long WL line move a little faster.

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