Discussion Forums - Love & Romance Love & Romance

Topic: Audiobook loan question.

Club rule - Please, if you cannot be courteous and respectful, do not post in this forum.
  Unlock Forum posting with Annual Membership.
Subject: Audiobook loan question.
Date Posted: 1/13/2009 7:08 PM ET
Member Since: 7/2/2005
Posts: 3,444
Back To Top

I download audiobooks from my library and I often burn them to CD so I can listen to them in the car.  I rarely relisten to them and hate to throw them out, it seems like such a waste.  I know we are not technically allowed to give them to others, but I was thinking about just throwing them in with PBS orders (for free) since they don't weigh much.  Can anyone see this as being a big issue?  I do understand the "licensing" issues, but I try and recycle as much as I can.  Throwing them away nags at me and feels so wrong....

Date Posted: 1/13/2009 7:39 PM ET
Member Since: 7/24/2005
Posts: 356
Back To Top

Angela, I think it's a great idea.  I'm very much into audio books now, and if I ordered from your shelf, I would greatly appreciate getting a recycled audio book (unpostable, of course) thrown in as a freebie.

Date Posted: 1/14/2009 12:29 AM ET
Member Since: 10/6/2007
Posts: 376
Back To Top

Can anyone see this as being a big issue?  I do understand the "licensing" issues

I think it would be against copyright that is to say, illegal, to burn and share copies of audio downloads, even free.

ETA it would be tantamount to pirating - like downloading illegal music or video. Just saying...



Last Edited on: 1/14/09 12:30 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 1/14/2009 1:55 AM ET
Member Since: 11/13/2005
Posts: 1,950
Back To Top

While I'd adore a few, I think Melinda is right...not that I'd rat ya, lol

But have you considered ploping down the initial extra $$ to invest in re-writeable cd's? 

Date Posted: 1/14/2009 7:51 AM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
Posts: 26,510
Back To Top

It's Illegal. Can you download them to an MP3 player? My library uses Overdrive and it says you can download them to most MP3 players.  I was never able to get one to do that.  But that's probably because of my ancient computer and user ineptness.   What you'd save in CDS would probably cover the cost of a cheaper MP3.  Or the rewriteable CDS-which I didn't know you could get. 

I've only done the dowloadable ones if that's the only source.  I'll usually check the CDS out and then load them onto my Ipod.

Date Posted: 1/14/2009 12:37 PM ET
Member Since: 8/9/2007
Posts: 4,058
Back To Top

Yeah, it's the distribution part that has the illegality issue attatched to it.  I wouldn't snitch on anyone for doing a lending library type thing with theirs either, and I would absolutely hate to see anyone get into trouble for that, but the possibility always exists that they could.  I probably will never do audio unless I go blind - it just doesn't appeal to me - but if I did, the waste of never being able to pass them along when you don't want them anymore would bug me too.



Last Edited on: 1/14/09 12:38 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 1/14/2009 6:55 PM ET
Member Since: 7/2/2005
Posts: 3,444
Back To Top

I am legally allowed to burn one copy of the disk - I don't make extra copies.  It is that disc that I hate to throw out once I am done with it.    I hate throwing away things.  I guess that is why this site is so great for me.  I get to recycle books (and get them for cheap). 

Yes I can also copy on to my MP3, however I like to listen to it in the car and my old radio does not play mp3's.  (I tried one of those tapes that you plug your mp3 into but it sounds bad with audiobooks.  Rewritables get bad after a while too and sometimes don't play well on my radio if they are not "closed".

I was in software licensing for a long time so I get the copywrite issues, but even with software you are allowed to give away your software as long as you don't keep a copy.  I wish the books were the same way. 

I feel sad that more and more people are moving to electronic books,  book trading may someday be a thing of the past.  I don't see it in the foreseeable future, but it is coming.  Publishers are looking for ways to capitalize on all their books and reselling, trading etc cuts into the profit. 



Last Edited on: 1/14/09 6:58 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 1/14/2009 7:00 PM ET
Member Since: 7/2/2005
Posts: 3,444
Back To Top

I probably will never do audio unless I go blind - it just doesn't appeal to me - but if I did, the waste of never being able to pass them along when you don't want them anymore would bug me too.

I fill my hour long commute and exercise time with audiobooks, other than I don't particularly like them either. 

Date Posted: 1/14/2009 11:23 PM ET
Member Since: 7/31/2006
Posts: 14,634
Back To Top

I like certain a uthors on audio..I had the cassette thingy you put in and it did ok for me..now I just got a new car and have an aux thingy I can use..haven't tried it yet though but glad it's there! Janet Evanovich is a favorite of mine on audio..also listened to a couple by JD Robb, Karen Marie Moning, and had cassettes of the yaya books by rebecca wells (the first 2 are awesome and I wanna ge tthem on mp3 when they're at my library!) haven't listened to the latest one.think it goes back to the time before the other 2...also like kids books on audio. I usually end up finishing with the book - at least most of the time but it sure helped pass the 4 hour trip to my parent's listening to KMM or Janet Evanovich!

Date Posted: 1/15/2009 9:12 AM ET
Member Since: 10/6/2007
Posts: 376
Back To Top

I probably will never do audio unless I go blind - it just doesn't appeal to me

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Then I read a discussion about how the audio version of Outlander enhanced the story for someone else - and especially since I tend to skim and miss important details - I got the audio, and now I'm hooked. Having a good narrator read it to me was really great and I picked up on layers and nuances I had missed the first time! Plus, I can strap on that ipod and do dishes, drive around, knit, whatever and still get a book read!! I have a bad habit of wanting to get the audio even when I've read the book, if I really like the book and especially if I also like the narrator. But I also have a ton of audio books I've never read in print (and in some cases, I get the book afterwards too...)

So I figured out I was actually missing out by not listening to audio books, and now I'm an audio book junkie. Audible.com must love me. Maybe since I don't burn a copy, I don't see any "waste" by not passing them on - they are just bits and bytes on my computer, not wasting space anywhere but the hard drive.



Last Edited on: 1/15/09 9:13 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 1/15/2009 10:57 AM ET
Member Since: 7/2/2005
Posts: 3,444
Back To Top

I also found that I will spend extra minutes on the eliptical trainer or even walk a few more blocks if I am at a good part in the story.  I tried reading on the eliptical, but my eyes get too tired while I am bobbing up and down. 

When my daughter has out of state soccer tournaments we listen in the car.  Its funny when we pull in and we are both like, wow are we here already.  

Date Posted: 1/15/2009 11:05 AM ET
Member Since: 6/12/2005
Posts: 191
Back To Top

I think as long as you're not making multiple copies, it should be okay to give away the one copy you made for yourself. That way, it's really no different from a book that you bought, read once, and then donated to the goodwill. The problem comes in when you still have the files on your comp and can burn another copy after you've given away the first one. That's the no-no part.   

Date Posted: 1/15/2009 11:45 AM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
Posts: 26,510
Back To Top

The Stephanie Plum books are hilarious on audio. 

Audio books were great on my cross country move.  Made the long days in the car by myself go much faster. 

I like to use them when I'm walking and cleanign the house if I'm home alone.  I find I can get a lot of housework done if I have a good audio book going.  I also walk faster during exciting scenes.

Date Posted: 1/15/2009 2:53 PM ET
Member Since: 8/9/2007
Posts: 4,058
Back To Top

I don't even know who pursues that or how much effort they would put into it.  I presume authors and publishing companies, and you hear of the FBI going after people, but it's generally large scale stuff in those cases.  Unless they just accidentally caught someone advertising something like that online or whatever, I'd assume they aren't aggressively out there looking for people who are sharing their single, legally obtained audios, y'know?  You would think that what they'd be after is people burning illegal copies and distributing them on a large scale.  Something like a legal copy that had just changed hands several times, not so much.



Last Edited on: 1/15/09 2:53 PM ET - Total times edited: 1