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Subject: Authors supporting Deborah MacGillivray
Date Posted: 4/18/2008 7:42 PM ET
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Ok, I am very serious about not supporting any author that has helped DM in her horrid behavior, or condones what she did.  But there are so many threads, especially at Amazon, that I am having a hard time keeping them straight.  Can anyone add to my list?  So far I have:

LeAnne Burroughs

Dawn Thompson

Tess Gerritsen

Date Posted: 4/18/2008 8:41 PM ET
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Here is the list that I have come up for myself. To add to yours

Catherine Spangler -- not my genre anyway, she does SF I heard but she was the one who gave Reba's address to DAM supposedly

Jacquie Rogers

Dawn MacTavish -- I heard this was an alias of Dawn Thompson

Billie Warren Chai -- author of the infamous anthony with the cover that is in dispute. I have also seen this author on the Amazon forums doing that Mac ganging up thing

Diane Davis White -- part of the Mac gang on the amazon forums

 

 

Date Posted: 4/18/2008 10:24 PM ET
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The only one of those authors I've even heard of is Tess Gerritsen and I can't recall anything I've read by her other than a Harlequin Intrigue years ago.

Date Posted: 4/18/2008 10:41 PM ET
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What am I not knowing here?

Date Posted: 4/18/2008 10:48 PM ET
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Dawn Thompson has passed away, so she's not supporting DM

 

 

Date Posted: 4/18/2008 10:49 PM ET
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Wow! I just went to amazon and read some of the discussions about this--Quite a few people on there said they will not buy from amazon anymore because of it either. I am not familiar with those authors and I definitely will not be reading DM's books either.

Date Posted: 4/18/2008 11:22 PM ET
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Dawn, read the Authors & Negative Reviews on Amazon thread.

Date Posted: 4/19/2008 12:06 AM ET
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Terri Gerritsen is an author of medical suspense/thrillers (think Robin Cook). She is quite well-known, I think she made the NY Times bestseller lists.

I will say she had nothing to do with the whole MacGillivray fiasco that went down at Amazon with Reba and all that stuff about the manipulation of reviews. But I read Gerritsen's blog on her website and while she doesn't agree with MacGillivray's behavior and actions, she stated she understands how MacGillivray feels regarding negative reviews. Just the way Gerritsen said it smacks of...being insincere and it just rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not sure I'll ever buy a book from her....

She pretty much has a snobby/elitist mindset regarding reviews, that annoymous reviewers like you and I (who aren't professionals) don't really know what we're talking about and shouldn't be reviewing (that's my take on her thoughts and opinions, oh and she does state it's her opinions). She regards her books as her babies and she does take negative reviews personally. Which is crazy as a reader may question why an author did this or that with the story, but no way is criticism of a book mean it's personal against the author.

Anyways, this is just the gist and feeling I got from reading her 2 blog entries and I totally disagree with her and can't find it in me to ever want to purchase her books with the way she came across, with attitude. Oh well, medical suspense/thrillers really isn't a genre I'm interested in so it's not like I'm missing out on anything.



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Date Posted: 4/19/2008 12:18 AM ET
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Dawn Thompson has passed away, so she's not supporting DM

 

DAM is the inheritor of Dawn Thompson's literary estate. You buy a Dawn Thompson book the money goes into DAM's pocket so yes, she is still "supporting" DAM, even if she is dead.



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Date Posted: 4/19/2008 2:30 AM ET
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Well this is good to know.  Gerritsen can just join her BFF on my don't buy ever list too.

And bottom line for every last one of these thin-skinned nitwits - if they don't want the negative customer reviews, they aren't entitled to any positive ones either.  Good with the bad.  That's how life works.  

Date Posted: 4/19/2008 7:12 AM ET
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She pretty much has a snobby/elitist mindset regarding reviews, that annoymous reviewers like you and I (who aren't professionals) don't really know what we're talking about and shouldn't be reviewing (that's my take on her thoughts and opinions, oh and she does state it's her opinions). She regards her books as her babies and she does take negative reviews personally. Which is crazy as a reader may question why an author did this or that with the story, but no way is criticism of a book mean it's personal against the author.

Gerritsen's attitude is highly arrogant. It also smacks of insecurity. I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.

Date Posted: 4/19/2008 7:28 AM ET
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I think I own a Tess G book that I've never gotten around to finishing...and now maybe I won't.

Date Posted: 4/19/2008 2:35 PM ET
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Whie Ms. Gerritsen has done nothing wrong (unlike MacGillivray), her whole attitude grates on my nerves. I would not willingly give my money to an author who has that kind of mentality toward readers and negative reviews.
Date Posted: 4/20/2008 12:02 AM ET
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I want to tell Ms. Gerritsen to suck it up and get over it.  She is coming across, to me, like a whiny crybaby.  Boohoo, some people don't like my books.  My feelings are hurt.  Here's a newsflash: not everyone is going to like everything you write.  Have your own private pity party and move on. 

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 1:12 AM ET
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I have a couple DM books in the TBR pile and I plan on reading them. I don't really pay attention to reviews and such.   If a book looks good to me, I'm going to read it regardless.

I was also going to bring up that  Dawn Thompson passed away.  I probably won't read any more of hers but mostly because I didn't really care for the one that I did read.

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 10:38 AM ET
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There are plenty of 5 star anonymous "A Customer" reviews on Amazon.  But those, I'm sure she doesn't have a problem with.  Just another whiny baby who can't take a little criticism.  And she's already said she doesn't learn from it anyway - which is stupid, IMO.  I never offer criticsm on a book unless it's constructive.  Things that I, as someone who's read a lot of them, think would have improved on the book, possibly elevated the rating and made it a keeper.  Obviously she knows everything and it's impossible to improve on anything she does.  Who knew?  I think she's just as much a pinhead as MacGillivray.  They just don't get it.  I'm more interested in the opinions of a handful of average readers than I am the opinion of one paid reviewer.  One opinion is good, several, even better.

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 3:34 PM ET
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Now someone on DA is saying Tess Gerritsen is closing her blog because of the big meanies at Dear Author. 

But don’t worry, folks, she’s shutting down. You win. And the blogosphere is poorer for it.

If it's true, give me a big f******g break!  Methinks she needs to find another job if she can't handle anything negative. Now I know I will never buy anything by her.  What a baby!

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 4:19 PM ET
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Oh boy. I read those blog entries, and Ms. Gerritsen had said she stood by her word and wasn't ashamed of what she had to say. Obviously, something changed between that time she wrote those entries and now. =P

No one that has commented on Ms. Gerritsen's blog entries wanted her to delete what she wrote (her stop writing in her blog). Everyone is just discussing what she wrote and how she is being a tad bit too sensitive (whiny.LOL) about negative reviews.

She can't take the heat, she shouldn't be writing...books or a blog.

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 5:53 PM ET
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If you haven't already read this, I recommend reading the great synopsis at

http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/04/18/summary-post-of-rebas-amazon-fight/

and then perhaps signing the ipetition (link is there).  I'll never read DAM after she turned weird stalker on this poor reviewer.

Also, read the latest on the Edwards debacle at http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/ (specifically http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/comments/signet-and-cassie-edwards-part-ways/)

Also, an absolutely hysterical review is http://www.smartbitchestrashybooks.com/index.php/weblog/decadent_by_shayla_black/

I showed it to my DH and he couldn't stop laughing. Of course, now I wonder what he thinks I read.

These two sites are great....and you thought you spent a lot of time here :-)

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 7:40 PM ET
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I found out that another author I have enjoyed in the past, JD Rhoades (not romance) is giving the Dear Author ladies and their fans grief over Tess Gerritsen, so now he's on my DO NOT BUY list, too.  :(

Katrina



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Date Posted: 4/20/2008 11:32 PM ET
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Tess Gerritsen could have just not commented on that mess.  Surely she knew what she was saying was going to be controversial?  Or maybe she's so used to the people who plant happy kisses on her arse there on her blog, she really didn't think she'd get publically trounced for shooting off her fat bazoo?  Oh well...



Last Edited on: 4/20/08 11:32 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/20/2008 11:57 PM ET
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WTH is going on with these authors who fall apart at negative reviews?  I cannot fathom how anyone who can't handle someone saying," I hate your book" would go into a business where they are going to get criticized all day long.  There is absolutely nothing that is universally loved.  Sure," I hate your book" is harsh but they really need to learn how to brush it off and move on.  Not cry into their cornflakes and curl into a fetal ball on their bed.  I have little patience with this kind of behavior.

Date Posted: 4/21/2008 8:22 AM ET
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Actions have consequences, she should have known that.  I will add JD Rhoades to my list-thanks.

Date Posted: 4/21/2008 8:59 AM ET
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I think what Nora Roberts more or less said is that you don't respond to negative - even nasty - reviews.  Period.  I think she's absolutely spot-on right.  You look stupid trying to explain a book to someone who didn't enjoy it, for one thing.  It's already bombed - it's too late.  And on the nasty reviews - which boil down to personal attacks on the author in some cases - you don't dignify something that stupid with a response.



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Date Posted: 4/21/2008 9:57 AM ET
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Kim,

I think Ms. Roberts said (paraphrasing here from what I read on Dear Author comment) that she doesn't like negative reviews either, but she doesn't take it personally. She doesn't think about it all day. She just shrugs, thinks, "some people don't like my books oh well" and moves on! She doesn't give into ranting about it in a blog. She doesn't say readers don't know what they're talking about, or that they didn't get the book or characters.

I have never heard of JD Rhoades. Who is this author and what did he say? Anyone have a link? Thanks, I will keep him on my list of What Authors NOT to buy! =P

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