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Subject: Binding Type?
Date Posted: 1/27/2011 1:03 AM ET
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Does School Library Binding have specific definition at PBS or is it simply luck of the draw?

Date Posted: 1/27/2011 3:55 AM ET
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Some books are noted as 'library binding' . . . it's where paperback, softcover, or hardcover would otherwise be posted on the book information page.  Unfortunately, some may be cross posted with hardcovers.

A quick search under Washington State found these examples:

The Northwest: Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington (State Reports) Author: John F. Grabowski, Patricia A. Grabowski

Uniquely Washington (Heinemann State Studies) Author: Linda Johns

or here's another:  Dolly Madison: Famous First Lady (A Discovery Biography)  Author: Mary R. Davidson

Date Posted: 1/27/2011 10:55 AM ET
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I would expect a hard bound book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_binding

http://lu.com/odlis/odlis_l.cfm#librarybinding

It would NOT be a mass market paperback.



Last Edited on: 1/27/11 11:04 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 1/27/2011 11:01 AM ET
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Its a crap shoot. Any book that has been bound differently for a library could be posted that way and I have seen both Hard Cover and paperback that way. A Hard Cover is often a book without a dust jacket, but the image printed on the cover itself. A paperback is often reinforced to withstand all the handling. Sometimes its a turtleback.



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Date Posted: 1/27/2011 12:44 PM ET
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Monkey, are you looking to order library bindings or avoid them?

Date Posted: 1/27/2011 2:23 PM ET
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Mostly to understand them,

Amongst other things I have noted that they don't come up as optionable books when you perform the searches.  I don't have anything against library books, but this lets me know that if I request one then I might need an RC for clarification.

The other question that I have arising from this (this information is from the same source as Amazon's info I know), is if I encounter a book that has one of these ISBN's, at FOL sale or something, is this one of the few cases where TPTB will change binding types if it is forwarded to them from the data entry team?  (I wouldn't want to bother posting a book that no-one will ever see unless they have the Wish List expander on).



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Date Posted: 1/27/2011 5:09 PM ET
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<<if I encounter a book that has one of these ISBN's, at FOL sale or something, is this one of the few cases where TPTB will change binding types if it is forwarded to them from the data entry team?>>

The Team changes binding information very rarely, and my understanding is that it depends on a number of factors, including if other members have the book listed (if someone has it posted as binding A, you can't just switch the listing to binding B) and what other book sources list the binding as.  There's also the issue of "what if the publisher cheated and used the same ISBN for multiple editions?" So, there's no easy answer as to if they will change a binding type.  When in doubt, though, it is best to assume that they will not do so.

<<I wouldn't want to bother posting a book that no-one will ever see unless they have the Wish List expander on>>

There are a number of ways members can see varying or non-ISBN items that don't involve the Wish List expander -- doing a plain old search by author or title, or example, or checking the "Books Posted Today" feature can lead members to your book, as can folks browsing your shelf or choosing to "Order More" from you.  I've been surprised when posting items myself that I thought would never be requested -- Readers Digest editions, old 60s hardcovers -- but folks wanted them.  So, you might want to consider it -- it might not get ordered if you post it, but it will certainly never get ordered if you don't. ;-)

Date Posted: 1/27/2011 11:05 PM ET
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What I wasn't sure of on the binding (I've had them change an entry that was Unknown Binding, of course mine was the only book posted under that ISBN), given that it isn't one of the "recognized" binding types (my WL lists them as "Other" until you open the entry).  Thanks for the info, I think it answers my question.

I hadn't thought about the "Books Posted Today", but I can say that when I search by author or title then they DO NOT show up (but that would be because they aren't HB, PB, Audio CD, or Audio Casette which are my only options in the search engine, maybe this is something I should suggest to TPTB, an all binding types option or something), so this is what I was going by.  I know a lot of people seem to search by ISBN from watching the forums.  How do these people come upon the ISBN's.  Is it primarily an Amazon/B&N search?



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