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Subject: Book club editions?
Date Posted: 9/16/2008 2:35 PM ET
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Please help me understand this - I've seen some RC's stating "No book club editions accepted."

Can anyone tell me what is the difference?  I mean, same written words right?  Anyone care to guess why people wouldn't want a book club edition?  Or if you have that as an RC, please shed some light for me!

Thanks!

Date Posted: 9/16/2008 2:43 PM ET
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BCE are generally smaller hardbacks and might or might not be abridged versions.  Sometimes the binding isn't as good as other versions.

I personally don't care and just want a book in good condition!  now if it were for my keeper shelf and I wanted all of the book to line up I would want either all BCE or none.  However, I'm not that picky about my keeper shelf and have some older books in hardback that only came in a BCE size.

Date Posted: 9/16/2008 3:00 PM ET
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BCE should also not be confused with books that have book club discussion guides at the end. Those are just perks.

Date Posted: 9/16/2008 3:09 PM ET
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Michelle--

It can be difficult sometimes to tell if you have BCE in your hands.  Here's a good website with photos of some of the common "signs" of a Book Club Edition: http://www.mywingsbooks.com/coll-terms/bce_.shtml

There are paperback book clubs, so it isn't only hard covers which can be BCEs.

When in doubt, best to decline, rather than to risk losing a credit.

Cheers,

Catt

 



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Date Posted: 9/16/2008 3:41 PM ET
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I think sometimes the print is a different size and sometimes the paper is a lower quality, too.

 

ETA: Elizabeth, that site you linked to is excellent. It really shows the difference between the two versions and gives a very detailed description. The pictures help a lot.



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Date Posted: 9/16/2008 7:15 PM ET
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I have that note in my RC for some books.

Generally if I'm ordering a HC I'm getting it for my keeper shelf. I might already have a couple books in that series or by that author and want the books to match size-wise. On the other hand, sometimes I request a bookclub edition specifically because either the book wasn't published in HC originally or I have other books in the series in BC size and again want them to match.

Date Posted: 9/17/2008 10:37 AM ET
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I've been wondering what book club editions are too. And why are they called book club editions? Are they designed specifically for reading groups, or do people get them through those mail-order places?

Date Posted: 9/17/2008 11:10 AM ET
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Zoe, they are called BCE since they are only available in that size from mail order book clubs.  They are smaller than traditional HC to save on shipping I'm sure

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Date Posted: 9/17/2008 11:18 AM ET
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Shouldn't a book club edition have a separate ISBN?  I am pretty sure I have seen them listed separately, but I guess I don't know if it's universal.

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Date Posted: 9/17/2008 12:44 PM ET
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That's a good point. I guess the only danger is if you request a book that has no ISBN - a couple of BCE books I posted didn't have ISBN's. The requestor wouldn't know.

But otherwise, I'd think the ISBN would guarantee you shouldn't get a BCE.

Date Posted: 9/17/2008 12:56 PM ET
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Many of the BCE will say somewhere that they are BCEs.  I've seen this on the inside of bookjackets and sometimes on the publishing info page.   I've also noticed (since I belong to a book club) yes, the books are smaller, and they don't have the price listed on the top inside of the bookjacket. 

Date Posted: 9/17/2008 1:07 PM ET
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I order a lot of books from the Science Fiction Book Club and most of the time (unless it's a reprint of a very old book) they have the same ISBN as the regular HC book. I don't know why, and you'd think they'd be different, but most of those I've received are the same.

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Date Posted: 9/17/2008 1:11 PM ET
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Books from Mystery Guild also have the same ISBN as the regular hardcovers.

I may be in a minority, but I prefer BCEs to regular hardcovers. Why? Because I mail them out again, and they are almost always under 1 lb, while the regular hardcovers are usually over 1 lb.

Date Posted: 9/17/2008 1:14 PM ET
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That bothers me about the SFBC, Rena, because often they reuse ISBNs for books that otherwise have a separate ISBN for each and every edition.  Another thing they do is misrepresent the year of the edition's publication, citing the title's original year of publication instead, so that when attempting to request a vintage copy instead I get a 2005 <ewww>.

From what I understand the easiest way of noticing is to check the dust jacket (of hardcover BCEs).  If there's a price on the dust jacket, it's usually not a Book Club Edition, even if purchased through a book club.  A genuine BCE will either identify itself as such on the jacket, or at the least have no price listed on the flap or back.

Date Posted: 9/17/2008 5:36 PM ET
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Thanks, that helps!  I like to keep all books in a series the same type, too, but I never thought about book club editions. 

Date Posted: 9/20/2008 5:31 AM ET
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Elizabeth, thanks so much for that link.   It was really helpful!

Deb

Date Posted: 9/20/2008 11:08 AM ET
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In my opinion the size of a book doesn't necessarily indicate if it is a book club edition or not. A lot of never books have the same size as BCEs lately. Just go to the next B&N and take a look around. You'll see.
Date Posted: 12/4/2008 5:31 PM ET
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I know this was an old topic, but I wanted to verify.  I have a bookclub version (came from rhapsody bookclub) of Tribute (ISBN 9780399154911) by Nora Roberts and Into the Fire (9780345501530) by Suzanne Brockman.  Both of these ISBN numbers match the one for hardcover in PBS.  There is no mention anywhere in PBS of this being a bookclub edition.  I'm assuming (like mentioned above) that the bookclub used the same ISBN of the normal "non bookclub" hardback.  They both have more than 50 wishes. 

My question is this: If I post them to PBS and they are ordered, do I need to tell anyone that they are bookclub editions? I know there are people who don't care, but I also don't want to make anyone upset if they were not  "expecting" the bookclub edition.

Thanks for any advice!
Nicole

Date Posted: 12/4/2008 5:34 PM ET
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Nicole--

If the ISBN, title, author and binding match, you should be fine, except, of course, for members with a "no book club editions" RC.

 

Cheers,

Catt

Date Posted: 12/4/2008 9:04 PM ET
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Thanks Catt!

Nicole

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Date Posted: 12/4/2008 10:41 PM ET
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Today was the first time I've really paid attention and noticed the difference in BCEs vs other books.  All of my  (well, maybe not ALL, but it sure seems that way!)  students are reading the Twilight series.  I snapped up the whole series through Doubleday Book Club, they were cheap, and I wanted to see what all of the excitement was about.  When I put my copy in HC next to my student's paperback, mine was thinner!

The kid actually said...ready for this...."I'd rather read yours, it's shorter!"  Gotta love kids!