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Subject: book with different ISBN
Date Posted: 2/29/2008 10:21 AM ET
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Ok, here's my dilemma.  I have a book that is a paperback but when I enter the ISBN # it is listed as a hardback.  It was sent to me under the same circumstances.  No problem, but I did report it when I received it.    I have posted it as a book without an ISBN just as the Help section told me to.  Now it is listed twice on my TBR list.  The original post(with the incorrect ISBN) is on someone's automatic wishlist, (actually it has 23 request)but apparently the corrected version hasn't been sent to them since I haven't received a request.  If I post the original version I could pm the person to see if they want a paperback, but with auto request do they have the option to refuse and still keep their position in line?  I hope I didn't confuse the heck out of everyone.



Last Edited on: 2/29/08 10:41 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/29/2008 10:33 AM ET
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Unfortunately they will not be able to cancel without losing their place in line. You can however, post that you have an alternate version of this wishlisted book in the Book Bazaar to see if you can generate some interest. You can also put it in your signature line so it can be seen

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 10:49 AM ET
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Once the wisher accepts, you can cancel.  This will not affect the wisher's place in line.  You are welcome to let them know that the paperback is available on your shelf.  Since the ISBN info is wrong, you were correct to post the book separately.  Better to do this than to send a book that doesn't match what the person is requesting. 

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 12:49 PM ET
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Please do not post the incorrect book and then PM the sender. Remove the incorrect item on your TBR pile and only post the book correctly. You can always advertise in the BB or in your siggy that you have a paperback version of X which is wishlisted and people can go to you shelf and order it if they want it.  You do not have the version that is wishlisted so you should not post it.

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 2:20 PM ET
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Just to confirm: there is no way to ever correct this if the database is in error?

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 2:33 PM ET
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Gloria, see the suggestion in Making Tags Useful #10. Tag it with Copy available: ISBN xxxxx Where xxxxx is the PBS-generated ISBN for the book. Bet it gets snatched up! Just make sure to remove the tag when it's gone. :)



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Date Posted: 2/29/2008 4:18 PM ET
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John - you can submit the change through update book info and they would probably look at it. If it is truly a database error and the book does not exist with the binding as it is listed, they might change it.

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 7:40 PM ET
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John, many times an ISBN is re-used and is the same for a HB as well as PB...

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 7:55 PM ET
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Christy: this is a case where the book is British, Amazon. uk has them assigned correctly, but they got transposed when they went to amazon.com (U.S.) so the database here has them that way. I don't think it's fair I cannot have that kind of thing changed.

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 9:06 PM ET
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Actually, there is no way to submit a binding change thru the book data edits. The only possibility is to send it to me, I will make a prelim check, and tell you whether it is worth sending to R&R for consideration. They of course, will make the decision, not I.

Here are a couple of things you need to consider. If there are already copies listed to that ISBN, do we know for absolute postive that they are not the binding listed?

If there are none listed, but someone is wishing for that book, then they are probably wishing for the binding listed, and if we change the database, how will they know that the book they wished for is NOT what they are going to be receiving what they wished for?

Finally, how do you decide whether it is absolutely never been published in that binding, when it's pretty much impossible to check with the publishers. They don't have half their publications listed anywhere, and as stuff goes OOP it's even harder to research it.

As stated, publishers reuse the same ISBN for multiple editions all the time. And PBS can only assign the ISBN to one edition, so the other edition has to be listed manually and receive a PBS-ISBN substitute. If you will send me the information in a PM, I will let you know whether you should bother sending it to PBS for consideration.

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 9:33 PM ET
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If a PB and HB both have the same ISBN and the HB was posted first and claimed that ISBN on PBS why would it be fair for you to have it changed to the PB version and then all those with the HB version have to relist their's with a PBS assigned ISBN substitute....why shouldn't you as the one posting the PB version have to be the one to have to post it as the PBS ISBN substitute.

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 7:24 AM ET
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Sherry, thanks for the info!

Cheryl has good advice - post it in the book bazaar - there's even a dedicated thread for Wishlisted Books with different ISBNs!

Jane, that's a great idea with the tags!! 

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 8:25 AM ET
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Thanks for all of the suggestions.  Luckily, soon after I posted this book it was requested.   She is aware that it is a paperback and that the ISBN  shows up as a hardback.  All of the book sites I searched this ISBN on showed up as the hardback version.  Amazon did show a paperback version as out of stock so they didn't have an ISBN listed.  This is a cookbook, so it probably doesn't come up often.  It was on my wishlist a long time, so I feel bad for the 23 people wishing for it.  I imagine that some of them, like me, wouldn't have minded getting the paperback version.  Not much I could do but follow the rules this time.  I'll pm Sherry with my information and let her take it from there.  I love how the people here always take the time to respond - Wonderful site!

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 9:16 AM ET
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I'm responding to your PM here, Gloria, so that others know how it goes.

It is good that you posted your book manually with the non-ISBN page. If you had posted it to the ISBN listing showing it as a HC, the requestor could have marked it RWP and requested their credit back, and you would have rec'd a mark on your account. I'm glad you did it correctly.

This can not be changed in the system because it is obvious that the publisher did use the same ISBN for both the HC & the PB editions by the fact that so many HC editions are listed on the Internet. Hateful publishers!!!

A suggestion, since you are aware of this book, might be to put a tag on it such as "also in PB-search by name" that might get some people to watch for it and help others that post it as you did to get their book noticed quicker.

You would also get a mark had you listed it incorrectly, PM'd them to see if they wanted the PB and had to cancel if they didn't. Now you might have gotten lucky and they would take it, but is it worth the risk of getting a mark on your account? I'm glad you didn't think so :)

Many people watch the "WL books with a different ISBN" topic, and most WL books are grabbed pretty quickly from it. Also, many people have started using the tags to draw attention to their copy by listing their PBS-ISBN in the tag for the book.

John, as for your book, how do you know that someone here in the US doesn't have the British edition? If the British edition was published with that ISBN with that binding, then it is a legitimate posting. Many of us swap books on another site that is International, and I have a couple of books that are UK editions and would have the UK ISBN, so it is not absolutely wrong for the book to be listed here with that ISBN.