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Subject: book not showing as large print
Date Posted: 11/14/2010 12:18 PM ET
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trying to post the following book

 

Kiss Me while I Sleep  by Linda Howard           Hardcover       Large print        ISBN  9780739444894

 

not showing as large print



Last Edited on: 11/14/10 12:38 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 11/14/2010 1:23 PM ET
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Hey Bertie, It is showing up at Amazon under that ISBN as large print which means either you can submit an edit to have this book listed as large print, but I seem to remember reading that that process can take some time, since the edit has to be verified that it is an ISBN that is only linked to a large print book and not reused for another edition with that title. I would suggest that you list it without an ISBN so that you can reflect the large print in your copy immediately. If you do that, put large print in parathesis following the title.

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 1:43 PM ET
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thanks I will list without a isbn

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Date Posted: 11/14/2010 2:56 PM ET
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Bertie, Sally is right about doing an edit.  I'm a data edit approver and you can submit it, once it's verified that it is a large print by five sources other than Amazon it will be listed as a large print book.  Really should take no more than a week tops.  I'll fix it because it needs an image too and that's another thing I do - submit images.

And, shame on me!  If you find the book as a large print and a "regular" ptint then you can't do this!  Sometime a publisher will use the same ISBN for several editions.  Whichever edition makes it to PBS first be it large print or not that's the one that gets to keep the ISBN and all others must get a PBS ISBN..



Last Edited on: 11/14/10 7:16 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 11/14/2010 3:03 PM ET
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I already listed it without a isbn.  If I do want to edit a  book how do I do it??

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 3:11 PM ET
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To edit a listing, click on the book's title, and then on "more options" --> "edit book data."  Try to add all the info you can, especially if you have the book in hand. 

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 3:57 PM ET
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Okay thanks, now I know what to do

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 5:10 PM ET
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There is no reason to list it as a book without an ISBN. The rules say that a regular print book cannot be posted to a listing for a Large Print, but there is no rule going the other way. If no font size is designated, then a Large Print book or a regular font book can be posted to the ISBN.

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 6:07 PM ET
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And if you list it as a book without an ISBN  and the data is corrected (btw in the 6-8 sources I checked it is only a large print in the ISBN) you will be out of the loop for that book and if you should cancel your listing without the ISBN and add it to the correct ISBN you will be further back in the FIFO line.

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 7:37 PM ET
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OOPS !!  We have some incorrect information here.  First, a listing without a 'designation' is presumed to be standard print.

Large Print books are NOT to be posted to standard listings, and standard print books are NOT to be posted to Large Print listings.  If a member requested a standard book and received Large Print, or requested Large Print and received standard, they would have a legitimate complaint and should get their credit returned.

 Also, there is no magic number for a listing to be eligible for change from standard to LP or vice versa.  In order to change a listing to a different designation, a thorough search must find NO evidence of any other print size published with that ISBN.  Even then, if there are books posted, TPTB will presume that posting members followed instructions and no change will be made.

 Bertie, posting as a book without an ISBN was probably the best option.  Two things that can be helpful with that type of listing are to add the actual ISBN to the bottom of the description (synopsis), and also check the Large Print forum, this topic: *** Book Deals, Offers, Bookshelf Promotions *** .

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 9:19 PM ET
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...First, a listing without a 'designation' is presumed to be standard print.

Large Print books are NOT to be posted to standard listings, and standard print books are NOT to be posted to Large Print listings.  If a member requested a standard book and received Large Print, or requested Large Print and received standard, they would have a legitimate complaint and should get their credit returned...

I disagree with you Anna. There is nothing in the rules that would support someone complaining about a LP book if no font type is designated. It is not part of the Title, Author, binding Type, or ISBN and therefore does not have to match. The rules only state that a LP book must be a LP book not the other way around. I always equate it to the Paperback and MMP listing. Any size paperback can be posted to the Paperback listing, including a MMP even though there is a separate listing for MMP.

I am going to send in Feedback and ask that the Team clarify the rules if that is their intent. To me if nothing is listing the presumption should be that nothing should be presumed about the font size.

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 9:46 PM ET
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I am in agreement with Melanie D. .....  To me the rules Only state that Binding Type, Author, Title and ISBN have to match UNLESS the listing states it is a Large Print book then and only then does Font have to match.

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 10:27 PM ET
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If you have a LP you cannot post it to a non-LP listing.  If you have a non-LP you cannot post it to an LP Listing.

Per the Help Center:

 

Problem: you enter the ISBN on your book, and the listing that comes up does NOT say Large Print, but your book IS Large Print.

Explanation: This means that the publisher assigned the same ISBN to (at least) two different versions of the book.   At PBS, because each ISBN can be attached to only ONE version of a book, if you have the "other " version you need to enter it as if it does not have an ISBN.

Solution: Post this book with a customized listing for the book, using the Post Books without an ISBN link on the Post Books page, so that the Large Print status of your book is clear.

  • To make the book's Large Print status clear, you should
    • Put "(LARGE PRINT)" after the title on the Post a Book Without an ISBN page
    • Check the box for "Large Print" on that page
 

Problem: Title on the Listing Preview includes the words "Large Print" and your book is regular-font (NOT Large Print):

Explanation: This means that the publisher assigned the same ISBN to (at least) two different versions of the book.   At PBS, because each ISBN can be attached to only ONE version of a book, if you have the "other " version you need to enter it as if it does not have an ISBN.

Solution: Post this book with a customized listing for the book, using the Post Books without an ISBN link on the Post Books page, so that your book is not listed as Large Print if it is not Large Print.

Problem:  The Listing Preview has a "warning" pink box on it that says that the book is "Large Print" and your book is regular-font (NOT Large Print):

Explanation: This means that the publisher assigned the same ISBN to (at least) two different versions of the book.   At PBS, because each ISBN can be attached to only ONE version of a book, if you have the "other " version you need to enter it as if it does not have an ISBN.  The pink box says:

"This book is listed in the database as Large Print (16-point font size). If your book is NOT Large Print, you cannot use this listing to post your book.  If your book is NOT Large Print, Click here for more information."

Solution: Post this book with a customized listing for the book, using the Post Books without an ISBN link on the Post Books page, so that your book is not listed as Large Print if it is not Large Print.  If you "click here" the screens will help you post the book properly.

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 11:05 PM ET
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Thank you, Mary.  I should have taken time to include that in my post.  It seems  to me that there would be no need for a Large Print designation if they could be posted to the same listing.