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Subject: BookSwim Plans E-book Lending Site
Date Posted: 1/25/2011 12:37 PM ET
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BookSwim Plans E-book Lending Site  This is an article about an upcoming Nook/Kindle lending site.

BookSwim’s eBookToss.com would be different—more like physical book swap sites BookMooch.com or Paperbackswap.com—attracting a critical mass of users to make books available, with BookSwim acting as a middleman, Burke explained, “to effectively connect lenders and borrowers, and ensure the transaction.”

I went to the website, www.ebooktoss.com, and it's redirected to http://www.bookfling.com/. I don't know if they've changed the name since the article came out 5 days ago or if that's the old name of the site and it will be changed.  I've signed up and it says the website is in beta and they'll email me when it's up.

ETA: Thanks Colleen! I corrected the sentence.

 

 

 



Last Edited on: 3/12/11 11:12 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 1/25/2011 1:15 PM ET
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It redirects to ebookfling, not bookfling. I signed up too! 

Date Posted: 1/25/2011 1:23 PM ET
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Interesting!

I used BookSwim for a trial period of 3 months, and I didn't like it; the selection was poor and it took forever waiting for some of the YA titles I wanted to read. I thought it was too expensive for what you get.

But the ebook part would totally work for me!

Date Posted: 1/26/2011 6:50 AM ET
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Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it looks to me like they are not renting the ebooks, they are just hooking up people who have bought them and want to lend them to others. So its nothing like Netflx, or the paperback rental service that I use (booksfree) or bookswim, where you pay a monthly fee and receive titles, read them, and send them back for more.

Date Posted: 1/26/2011 7:21 AM ET
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That's how I see it also, Anne.  In fact, it appears like it's similiar to www.booksfornooks.com which I just joined yesterday.  Already I see a book I'd like to borrow there.  I just need to set up my account with books that I have available to lend.

Date Posted: 3/10/2011 1:08 PM ET
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Got an email today that it's going live next week:

Get Ready

The new eBook Fling will spring into full operation next week. That's right-- free ebook swapping will be available to all in just four+ days. We'll alert you the nanosecond that we open our doors.

We're almost ready to start lending!

Much love,
The eBook Fling Team

 

Date Posted: 3/10/2011 8:59 PM ET
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So, how do these sites work?  I've never loaned  out a Nook book before.  Is it only the books on my Nook that have the "lend me" icon that can be loaned out.

Date Posted: 3/10/2011 9:36 PM ET
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So, how do these sites work?  I've never loaned  out a Nook book before.  Is it only the books on my Nook that have the "lend me" icon that can be loaned out.

I'm using a yahoo group and a couple of Kindle lending sites.

Basically, a book that's lendable is listed on the sites. One site has a list you can type in the name/author and it shows which books are lendable and which aren't. At the other sites you have to look it up yourself. I just checked my book list on Amazon.

Once the books you can lend are listed, basically the site takes the request and sends it to the email address of the lender. Then the Lender goes to Amazon, goes to the book's page, and clicks "Lend this book". Then you put in the email address of the person requesting the loan. Amazon sends them the offer, and puts the book on their book list if they accept. If not, then I think it reverts back to the lender after a few days.

Amazon then knows the book is lent out, and you can't open and read it until the other person returns the book or the loan period is up. Then you get an email from Amazon letting you know you have your book back so you can redownload it to your device.

The site mainly just get people together to trade email address'. You still have to go through Amazon to actually loan out the book.

Sounds to me like the new site will just be doing the same thing, at least at first.

 



Last Edited on: 3/10/11 9:36 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/10/2011 10:15 PM ET
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With the Nook, you loan out your Lendable books directly from the Nook. 

No guess work, Melody, just click the Lendable folder & it'll show what's available for loaning (or, at least on my NookColor there's that folder).

Date Posted: 3/10/2011 11:10 PM ET
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Thank you both for the explanation.

How does this affect books you've gotten from other sources, say from the Smashwords website?  Are they lendable?

Date Posted: 3/11/2011 5:41 AM ET
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I only have Kindle for PC so Dont know how the lending goes on actual Kindle. AFAIK only two loan books, Kindle and Nook. They will only loan books they sell or give away and the publisher/author has to agree to it. I haven't heard of anyone else doing it. I'm not sure smaswords has the ability or the interest.
Date Posted: 3/11/2011 9:39 AM ET
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Whoops! Question answered in above post. Should have finished reading. I just wondered if once I lent the book out that it wasn't mine anymore, but I see it comes back to you.



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Date Posted: 3/11/2011 3:38 PM ET
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The site looks like its going to operate a LOT like PBS!  I like that!  Cant wait to get started!!  Tho I dont have many I can lend yet LOL

Date Posted: 3/12/2011 2:34 AM ET
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OK- I knew there had to be a catch on the Ebookfling. Here it is: lend a book, get a credit. Want to borrow and don't have a credit? $1.99 to borrow a book.

So, reader A doesn't want to buy any books from B&N because they're too expensive, so they have none to lend. However, they really like what reader B has purchased and then put up to share, so they pay 1.99 (way cheaper than buying a book) to borrow from reader B. Who's reader B going to borrow from?? I'd put up my books in a heartbeat, but I only have about 10 that aren't classics and yup, I'd pay 1.99 to read another- cheaper than a book credit.

I can see how it would be really easy to get top heavy with credits and nothing to spend them on with this site. Use it- I will- but be very careful with how many credits you accumulate.It could be hard to spend them eventually. maybe list one or two and see how it goes.

Date Posted: 3/12/2011 9:18 AM ET
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I can see where they're wanting people to loan as many as they borrow, so would want to have a points system, but think it's a dangerous idea to put a monetary value on the points. And even worse to let people 'buy in'.

Authors have agreed to have their books lendable for various reasons I assume, and one of those would be to get free advertisement by letting someone borrow it to read. Then hopefully find they like the author. I'm not sure they'd be very happy to find out someone was making money on a 'secondary' sale, or a loan, they they're not going to get. This 'lendable' feature for books may not last forever, if enough people get into buying ebooks there may be less incentive to bother with loaning them out as free publicity.

I'm also not sure it's quite fair to get a credit for posting a book that was a freebie. Sure, it may not be a freebie at the time someone wants to read it, but still... The site is going to be swamped with the freebie books.

If it's Kindle loans people are looking for, I'd suggest the PBS Kindle Loan Group, info Here.  And one or both Booklending.com and Books for My Kindle . All three are free. I have some quibbles with the pro sites, but Booklending is going to revamp and take care of some of my suggestions, and Books for My Kindle just takes me getting used to it. I've gotten some very nice trades from them recently.

And, once again, they're free.

 



Last Edited on: 3/12/11 9:19 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/12/2011 11:26 AM ET
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I'm a Nook user who participates in the Nooks for BooksB&N e-book Offers Thread, Nook ebook "Lend Me" thread and Nook Lenders.  With so many free exchange threads available I'd be hard pressed to pay $1.99 for an ebook loan especially since so many ebooks are little more than $3, so I can just buy it instead.

There aren't many books I want to read offered in those groups but I can say that with the few that I have borrowed I've immediately put up a book to lend and it's been asked for.  For these free exchange groups to work better, more books need to be posted as available rather than just the free books.  Plus don't get me started on folks that join free exchange groups only to constantly be the one borrowing and not lending.

Use it- I will- but be very careful with how many credits you accumulate.It could be hard to spend them eventually. maybe list one or two and see how it goes.

I'll be doing the exact same thing.  I'll post some books to build up a credit reserve of about 4 or 5 credits but I'm adament about not paying $1.99 for a book loan, I'd rather just buy it.