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Subject: the books listed when you search for a book
Date Posted: 12/12/2009 1:35 AM ET
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Tried searching but no luck so I may be asking a repeated ? but here goes.  When I search for a book and it is in the system are all the books listed is this how many there are available.  Like when I search and 5 copies show up in the search there are 5 copies available?  I know this may sound like a stupid ? but it leads to another ? Sometimes I will not post a book if there are already 50 million of them availble.  I will get rid of them another way. However, I wonder let's say if there are only 3 listed could there just be 3 available and if so when I add mine could I be adding them to a list that no longer has a member online or are deserted accounts and just maybe mine could be selected from a smaller pool of 3?  Honestly, I have to admit I am GUILTY of trying to buy books that could be one of a few listed (lucky me) or even wish listed possibly.  I haven't been successful with hitting the wishlist to often but I have been successful with listing a not to many posted book.  However, I have to say I search a book first and if there are bunches I won't bother to post it unless I have a hardback and all the ones available are paperback.  Thanks for answering my ?s in advance

Date Posted: 12/12/2009 2:32 AM ET
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I find it helpful to put the questioned book on my reminder list.  When you do that by the ISBN, it will tell you how many of that particular book is in the system.

The number it says are the number of books in the system.  It includes deserted accounts and inactive accounts UNTIL those accounts have been removed. 

I hope this answers your questions.

Date Posted: 12/12/2009 8:29 AM ET
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Like Cozy said the RL will tell you how many copies of a book are  in the system. It doesn't tell you your place in line if you have the book posted though.  I go ahead and post the heavily posted books.  Sometimes I post them before I read them so they work their way up FIFO.  But really I've quite a lot of them ordered from me.  Most of htem weren't on my shelf very long.  I moved cross country last summer and donated almost all my posted books before we  moved.  (I only kept like 5 that I posted before reading and then put my account on hold).  I would say I get 3 or 4 requests a month for heavily posted books.  I also trade a lot of them through Box of Books.

Date Posted: 12/12/2009 12:17 PM ET
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If five copies show up it's because the book has 5 different ISBN's.  The system will show you all books that are in the system with an individual ISBN.

Unfortunately they only show you the first in the fifo list.  I would like to see them list the top five in the fifo list.  That way you can explore the book shelves of all five and maybe you will find other books you want to order.  When you only get the first one in the system, chances are they don't read the same kind of books you do and their bookshelf will not contain books you are interested in.

Date Posted: 12/12/2009 2:11 PM ET
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Kate--The problem I see with giving people a choice of the top five copies or so to choose from is that it could be unfair to folks with smaller bookshelves.  They might keep getting passed up because they have nothing else to offer on their shelf--which would make them wait even longer for credits. 

I do understand wanting to be able to buy more from one person, though.  I always look through the shelves of folks I'm ordering from to see if there is something else I'm interested in.  And just the other day, I had someone order four extra books from me!  One of them I thought I'd never move because it had a UK ISBN--only copy in the system, but the book was heavily posted under the US ISBN.

Date Posted: 12/12/2009 2:25 PM ET
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Yes, Kate's proposed method wouldn't be equal and fair to all those that post books and the one great thing about PBS is that it tries to operate in a fair manner to all participating.

Subject: HELP!
Date Posted: 12/18/2009 10:28 PM ET
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What is FIFO and how do I get to put something on the reminder list?????

Date Posted: 12/18/2009 11:27 PM ET
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FIFO=First In First Out-First book posted is the first one ordered when someone requests a book (unless they request directly from someone's bookshelf).

You put a book on your reminder list by clicking the reminder list button. It'll be on the book description page and the the book list when looking at a list of books in the system.  You can put WL books on your Reminder list but it won't say how many are on the WL when looking at the reminder list.  It's just say 0 copies available. 

Also unless you have storage issues-don't be afraid to post those heavily posted books.  I post a lot of heavily posted books and I think I've only had a couple of them sit for more than a couple of months.  I post a lot of WL books and people frequently add a heavily posted book to the order.  Some of those books also have a high rate of requests.  A book could have 100 copies in the system but if 5 copies a week are being request the book could be ordered within a couple of months when you factor in inactive accounts and cancelled requests.

Date Posted: 12/18/2009 11:27 PM ET
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OK don't know how the double post happened.



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Date Posted: 12/19/2009 1:01 PM ET
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Kate--The problem I see with giving people a choice of the top five copies or so to choose from is that it could be unfair to folks with smaller bookshelves.  They might keep getting passed up because they have nothing else to offer on their shelf--which would make them wait even longer for credits.


I really don't think that would happen frequently.  I suspect that most people are just looking for one particular book and will take the first one that pops up.  Perhaps they could have something like a button saying "Would you like to see more choices" or something like that for the people who like to buy more than one book from sellers. 

Personally, I would rather see a random choice system than a FIFO system.  Most of my books have at least 100 copies in the system and the only way I can move books off my shelf is to offer deals because it will be a very long time before I end up first in a FIFO system. 

Date Posted: 12/20/2009 7:14 AM ET
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The system does suggest that you look at the rest of the seller's bookshelf.

I like FIFO, but I have a mixture of books, both heavily posted and not. I'm usually surprised by what moves, and when I offer a deal, books that are heavily posted do move. Still, when buying books specifically to list, I do shy away from those I'm pretty sure will have hundreds if not more already in the system as storage is becoming a problem for me.

Subject: I was desperate
Date Posted: 12/23/2009 1:16 AM ET
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I bought books to post to hopefully to get me some credits....unfortunately I don't know which ones are heavily posted when I buy them.  When that happens I donate them to my local library and some of my books are put on the shelves.  I may just try listing them anyway if there are not a "million" of them posted.   Storage is not a problem luckily.  My need for and desire for credits well that's a problem-you know it's bad when I'm saying to my son "Hey I'll take any books you don't want".  Of course discussing the books cost me a potential credit.  I told him I thinking of posting my 1001 Cookie Recipe book.  It is in pristine condition and so he ever helpful asked his girlfriend if she wanted to give it to her sister for Christmas since she likes to bake and it's going to her. DARN but "dems the brakes"  BTW this website is confusing still.