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Subject: Box of Book Questions
Date Posted: 10/4/2010 7:55 PM ET
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I have a couple of questions regarding Box of Books.

First, I just received a box that was missing one of the books. I've notified the member, took back up pictures of the box just in case, looked at the boxer's bookshelf and see it's not there (but am guessing that doesn't necessarily mean it's not there). Truth be told, I let the boxer slack by asking for fewer books than was asked of me and almost canceled the order because there wasn't much of interest on the shelf. Should I just ask for a credit? Make them send it or another book? How is this usually handled?

Second: do the rules of  no advertisements, pamphlets, brochures, etc. apply to BOB? I had several colored printouts of online boutique sales stuffed into one of my boxes along with a note asking me to check out their online sales sites. If that rule applies, how is it generally handled?

And a non-BOB question - does anyone know of a good site to trade/lend/purchase at bargain prices ePub books? After a batch of books came through that smelled like they'd walked (possibly ran) out of a smoker's house, I'm starting to think of switching over to strictly digital but will give that some more thought once I stop sneezing and get my head glued back on right.

~K~

Date Posted: 10/4/2010 8:02 PM ET
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You should let the member know that a book is missing and have them send it if they have it. If they don't have it and you do not find something on their shelf to replace it, I do believe that you can ask for a credit to compensate for it.

No advertising definitely applies to BoBs as well. I would inform the sender that they are violating the sites rules and could lose their membership and violating USPS regulations on Media Mail which could result in the package being sent back, arrive postage due after being reclassified to Priority, or if they get caught a lot - prosecution.

For most e-books, the licenses are for your use only and it is illegal to share or trade them. 

Date Posted: 10/4/2010 10:10 PM ET
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Check your local library's website-some subscribe to services for ebooks.  Otherwise I find that most full length ebooks are the same price as the print version and untradeable. Although I believe one of the ereaders (Nook maybe?) allows a certain # of trades.  But then you ahve to know someone with that same device who is willing to trade with you. 

Date Posted: 10/5/2010 1:56 AM ET
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Advertising enclosures violate both PBS user guidelines and USPS Media Mail requirements.  Feel free to PM the sender and/or PBS admin.

In virtually all cases, ownership of e-books is non-transferable (and therefore cannot be traded, sold, or gifted).  Supposedly one or more of the e-readers has a 'loan to a friend' feature, but last I heard the manufacturer was still de-bugging it.  



Last Edited on: 10/5/10 1:58 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/5/2010 5:44 AM ET
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Thanks everyone.

To clarify the ePub question, I do have a Nook and there is a lending option on it. I'm aware of a site for trading lendable books, but as Denise states, there are glitches to that system. Smashwords.com has a lot of free and low-cost publications, typically new authors and folks like the ePub master, J.A. Konrath has short stories, even mini-novels posted there. Apparently Smashwords.com feeds into the Barnes & Noble site as many of the freebie's I've downloaded from the B&N site open with the Smashwords disclaimer. I like those kinds of sites because it opens me up to new authors. I'm a bit burnt out on the best selling authors that are churning out three novels a year that's pretty much become boiler plate, so this changes things up greatly. Besides, if I want those kinds of authors, I have PBS, right? cool

I'm not sure that the ePub (or related e-reader format) digital editions of books are more or similarly priced as the hardbound/paperback editions. This is something that authors and publishers are strugging with at the time; many of the houses are quickly learning that you simply cannot charge print prices for electronic editions, the biggest problem is trying to figure out how to protect/prevent the resale of the electronic books given that the house nor author are receiving payment/royalties. This is an area I'm relatively familiar with as an author myself, but I do appreciate the feedback. Maybe someday in the near future they'll get this figured out, it would be spectacular if they did.

~K~

Date Posted: 10/5/2010 7:19 AM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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I would switch to ebooks if there was some kind of Netflix type thing for ebooks.  You pay a monthly fee to have x # of books on your  device.  When you are done reading one you could log in and have it replaced by another book.  As some one who generally reads 3-5 books a week.  Ebooks are just to expensive when you can't trade them afterwords.  I would even consider an ebook rental type system wehre you paid say $1 a week to rent a book. 

Date Posted: 10/5/2010 9:51 AM ET
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Many of the larger libraries are now using e-book lending systems.  Also there are a number of sites where you can find Free LEGAL e-books; many from new authors and a lot of "public domain" titles. Also, just like in the early days of digital music (remember Napster?), there are many, many file shareing sites that provide ILLEGAL, bootlegged e-books.

-RD

Date Posted: 10/5/2010 12:05 PM ET
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I received a "short" box, too, and wondered what to do.  When I pm'ed the sender, she discovered the book had fallen from her packing station and had hidden under a chair.  She sent it right away.

Sometimes shelves do not have a lot of what I want or do not already have.  IMO it's always a good thing to try and make the box swap work, especially if the boxer is fairly new...and you can tell by the number of swaps credited to them...and you never know when you may find a really good new friend.

Date Posted: 10/5/2010 2:32 PM ET
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There's also a thread under Love & Romance titled "post news of great romance sales/freebies here!", an addy link.

ETA - Consider joining All Romance Ebooks, they sometimes offer free e-books to members.  A recent promotion involved a free book offer each day for a week, I downloaded several authors new to me!



Last Edited on: 10/5/10 2:37 PM ET - Total times edited: 3
Date Posted: 10/5/2010 3:06 PM ET
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Re: Box of Books SNAFU - the boxer got carried away with boxing and inadvertently put it in another box but was apologetic and offered to remedy it. All is well, but in reading other posts in this forum, I figured it would't hurt to ask what remedies are available. I can definitely see that happening. My very first day as a boxer I had over 8 requests for a total of something like 36 books!  I'm not sure if I should be elated or disappointed that after that first couple of days, I haven't had any offers and all 3 requests I made were declined.

I agree about the availablity of books you want and making a swap work. I probably, though, won't do a second year of boxing simply because I don't read that fast - I am, after all, a writer first and foremost and it's become a hazard of the job as I tend to pick apart books for what does and doesn't work, which is very distracting and displeasurable from a reading for enjoyment side.

And it's hard to keep track of books! How do you do it? I had three people pick the same two books and accepted their offers only to have to back out of two because I didn't realize that the books were in another box. And since then, I've had two people decline an offer because the book that had been on their shelf had since been boxed and sent out to someone else. It would be neat if the book would come off the shelf until the other boxer accepts or declines the offer, IMHO. Lots less confusion.

Oh - and another thing, I waited about a week for a boxer to respond to a request. When I checked their bookshelf and saw that several books had been added to their shelf since I put in my request, I looked elsewhere for the book I really wanted, found it, put through the request with a different boxer and canceled my original. The boxer I canceled with PMed me back in response to my PM saying they never even knew there was a pending request. How's that possible? Just an oversight (the boxer was very nice about it, no harm, no foul) or perhaps there is a setting that you can select here that stops sending out email notifications when a new offer arrives? I haven't looked.

Denise: Great suggestion about the free e-books, thanks for the link and information. I'm not a big romance reader unfortunately and for a while I considered writing in that genre but everything turned out to be way too dark. I guess I am and forever will be a suspense/thriller kind of gal. No doubt there are others lurking that will use that link to their advantage.

 

Date Posted: 10/6/2010 9:53 AM ET
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e-books and audio books are also available in small communities through the local library  for a specific "rental" period.  I can download up to 10 books to an mp3 for a period of 3 weeks.  Some are even available for iPod now from the library. e-books are also available under the same terms.   It is called Net Library in our area but I am sure you can contact your local library and ask if they have this service available.

Date Posted: 10/6/2010 12:08 PM ET
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you can see if your library subscribes to overdrive.com. I get mostly audios from there but they do have a lot of ebooks. 

I never accept a BOB and take books I don't want just to make it work even if the boxer is new.  (when I was a boxer).  Kind of defeats the purpose of box of books.  I just say no.  I have however done lopsided boxes because I did really want say 2 books when they were asking for 3 and I didn't mind sending the 3rd book for free.   I've had others do that same for me. 

 

I didn't renew my BOB account this last time because the TBR is over 900 at this point and I would rather just donate my heavily posted, never get ordered books then swap them out for more.  I may do it again at some point.