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Subject: Box o Books question
Date Posted: 3/1/2008 12:15 PM ET
Member Since: 12/21/2007
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I'm debating about joining Box o Books as an additional way to trade here. But I wanted to ask if you can do small deals on the boxes. I'm probably only going to be interested in deals of no more than 4 to 5 books (and probably would prefer "boxes"/trades of just 2 books at a time. Is it possible to somehow let folks know that? Is it acceptable to do such small trades? Do people want small trades like that?

Another question is can you let folks know what your interests are? I most likely will only want to trade in only 2 or 3 genres. Is that an acceptable too?

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 12:25 PM ET
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I enjoy being a boxer because it is a way to trade for books without using your credits. Most of my box requests have been for 2 or 3 books. Probably if I had a much larger bookshelf I might get larger offers but I usually have 100-150 books on my shelf and that is what I have found  to be true. If someone offers you a larger trade than you want to make, you have the option to cut it back to what you would like it to be.

I know of no way of choosing the genre of offers. You just can refuse the box if they have nothing you are interested in reading.

 

 

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 12:33 PM ET
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Okay--thanks. I really love this site and I am totally enjoying getting my books out in the world. It would be nice to save some credits for books that are wish-listed. I think I'm going to take the plunge especially knowing that the deals can be for small amounts.

 

Thanks.

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 1:19 PM ET
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Thanks for this thread. I was wondering about small box'o'books also. I think I'll sign up also.

Peace today, Lisa

P.S. All children's books on my bookshelf free while they last. (no credits, no problem) I just love to see kids with books. Send me a PM if interested.

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 1:30 PM ET
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I've done 1 book trades, but I prefer 2-3. 

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 1:36 PM ET
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If you really wanted to limit your BOB trades to certain genres, you could put a "requestors condtion" on indicating that you will only trade those genres, or only trade for a maximum number of books. 

But on the whole, I wouldn't worry about trying to communicate these things up front.  Certainly you can only initiate trades for 2-3 books if you wish, but why not just let the size of your trades be dictated by what you find that you want?  You might be surprised.  If someone offers you a bigger trade and you can't find that many books you want, just pick the ones you want and send a PM asking them to reduce their side (or, as I sometimes do, offer  multiple-book per credit deal on the others - I'm happy to do that as I'm already saving on the postage).  You can also remove specific books from their list of requested books if you don't wish to include them in the trade, though they may then cancel if those happened to be the main books they wanted from you.

 

-bret

 

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 2:35 AM ET
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It sounds like you decided, but to share my short experiences and let you know.  You can do a "box" of one if oth boxers are willing.  I usually try for 3-4 to save on shipping (and have requested a few bigger lists when the choices are awesome :)  but of the 6 trades I've done all have been 4 or less. 

Good luck and welcome to boxing!  I love to be able to search boxers books before requesting for credit :)

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 4:14 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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I only do small BOB trades.  I like it best when there's 2 or 3 but I've done a couple with just 1.  When I first signed up for BOB I had quite a few offers where people wanted like 10-20 of my books.  I was surprised because I only have like 50 books posted.  In all those instances I didn't find anything I wanted or hadn't already read.  So I declined them.  If I had found a few books, I would have sent a PM to ask them to trim down their BOB offer.  You don't have to accept every BOB you get offered.  Some people accept even if there aren't any books they want to read and just repost them. But to me that's just a waste of my time and postage money.  So I only accept if I'm interested in reading something the other person has. 

I haven't gotten a BOB offer in a while. I keep thinking I'll make one but my shelf is so pitiful right now. That's why I put my account on hold, although I left my BOB account open just incase.  I need the WL book offers to stop coming in for awhile so I can get caught up w/reading the WL books I have already.

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 4:31 PM ET
Member Since: 12/19/2005
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The usualy piling on after a question has already been answered:

For a while I had over 200 books on my shelf, and even then most of my BoBs were only 2 or 3 books.  I preferred those to the 10 or 20 books deals people wanted on occassion.

The genre issue shouldn't be a problem, as long as you have that genre on your shelf.  I get soooo sick of people asking for swaps where they want lots of fantasy and science fiction, but have shelves full of romance.  I always want to tell them: If you want f&sf - go BUY some first!  But I don't!  I politely say Sorry, but there's nothing on your shelf I'm interested in at the moment..."

Really, the best piece of advice I can offer is this: Be prepared to say "No thank you" if you don't find something you want.  Resist the impulse to accept an offer just to be nice. 

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 7:51 PM ET
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I feel your pain Kari, the last few box offers I have not been able to accept because they have nothing I want or what I do want I already read. I feel bad declining, and I always offer to send them their request 2/1, 3/1 to make up for it but it is frustrating.

But to answer the original question, I will do a 1/1 box trade if they have a book I want.

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 10:32 PM ET
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Mary, just so you know, putting your shelf on hold, also puts your BoB on hold. You will not receive any Box offers, since your shelf cannot be seen. I just double checked for you.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 12:07 AM ET
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I do many BOB transactions that are 1, 2 or 3 books.  I prefer the 2-4 book deals.  I have done a couple of 10+ BOB's but it is hard to find books that I want on the other shelf.  I am one of those who mostly wants and has only 1 or 2 genre on my shelf.  I do occasionally look for and request books from a different genre but find as Kari stated that they get declined because I do not often have that genre on my shelf.  I have actually looked for some deals in the bazaar to supplement my bookshelf with a larger variety of genre that what I normally prefer for myself.  Some will say that is a waste of my credit and another members postage but I see it as being no different than going to a thrift store and buying books to add to my shelf.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 10:36 AM ET
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I do lots of BOB swaps, and I've done many for 1 book.  To date I haven't done any that included more than 4 books, but would be happy to do so if it worked out well for both of us.  I have actually found people very receptive to swaps of 1 or 2 books.  I think sometimes it's easier for someone to find 1 or 2 books of yours that they want vs. 4 or 5, plus with swaps of 1 book there's no need to go to the post office since it's under the weight limit for handing to a postal clerk.  I did have one swap with one book declined because the other member would only do swaps of 3 or more books, but that's fine--they very nicely told me that and it wasn't an issue.

So if you see 1 or 2 books of mine that you want to box for, I'd be happy to box with you, and it seems to me that so would a lot of others.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 10:42 AM ET
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Mary, just so you know, putting your shelf on hold, also puts your BoB on hold. You will not receive any Box offers, since your shelf cannot be seen. I just double checked for you.

 

Putting your shelf on hold shouldn't affect BOB, though.  Help desk says:

 

How does the Vacation Hold affect Box-O-Books?

Box-O-Books is not affected by a Bookshelf Hold.

  • You can put your bookshelf on hold for regular (for-credit) requests, and keep it open to Boxers.
  • In order to hide your bookshelf from Boxers, you will need to Pause your Box-O-Books as well:
    • To do this, click the Settings tab on the far right in the Box-O-Books area.
    • Click
    • To UnPause Box-O-Books later, just go to your Settings again and click the button

 

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 11:37 AM ET
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I know it's not supposed to, Bret, but her's was, and it stated that she had her shelf on hold, it did not state that her boxing was. And Mary said she was sure her boxing was NOT on hold. Maybe she did and didn't remember?

Shall we check? If you would check mine, Bret, I'm putting just my shelf on hold. I know my boxing is not, I just rec'd an offer :) Let me know what you see. I have this topic watched if you'd like to post here.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 11:40 AM ET
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I took the account of hold anyway.  I had some books to mail for a swap and wanted the DC option. If the WL offers come in, then they come in and I'll just accept or decline and give up my place in line. I removed some that I know will eventually be available in the PBS system as non-WL books.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 11:46 AM ET
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Mary, would you go thru the boxing icon for me to my boxing to see if you can start a box? I have only placed my shelf on hold, but I believe it has affected my boxing, which according to the help center it should not do.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 12:13 PM ET
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Sherry, when I click your boxer icon, it says that your shelf is currently on hold.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 12:14 PM ET
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Yes, it has - showing a message that your account is on hold.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 12:29 PM ET
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So, apparently they have changed something that is causing this, because, as Bret pointed out, my boxing should still be active unless I place a hold on it, which I did not. I will send in feedback on this. Either the HC needs to be reworded or there's a glitch in the system.

(I'm taking my account back off hold now.)

Edited: I have sent in feedback on this, asking if it is a change or a glitch. I'll post here when I get an answer.



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