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Subject: To be or not to be a Boxer
Date Posted: 1/11/2008 11:30 PM ET
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Trying to decide whether or not to sign up to be a Boxer.  My shelf isn't very big right now but I have around 300 unread books.  95% are readily available in the PBS system.  So boxing would probably be good for me instead of trying to do deals all the time.  I did one this weekend and it really wasn't worth the hastle of wrapping up all those books for the 4 or 5 credits I earned. Plus I have so many credits, it's not like I need to get orders to cover WL books or anything. 

But, I have a move coming up and really should be sending out more books then I get. However: it looks like my books will probably be going into storage anyway while I have the house on the market. I'll have somewhat easy access to them. Maybe I should be a boxer.  I'd rather store books I haven't read yet then ones I have.  It's not like I'll get much for them at the UBS.  The one town only issues store credit. Half-price books gives cash but it's an hour away and I can't get out of there w/o spending $50.

Ugh. What would you do?

Date Posted: 1/11/2008 11:50 PM ET
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I love being a boxer.  It is because of BOB that I now have about 250 books in my TBR pile!!  LOL   I would try it at least for one year if I were you, I thing you will like it.

Whenever I find a book I want, I first go to BOB and see if I can get it there without using up my credits.  Itry to save those for wishlist books if I can help it.



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Date Posted: 1/12/2008 12:15 AM ET
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BOB has built up my TBR stack to almost unbelieveable proportions in very little time.  Honestly - I looked at this when I first signed up here and didn't think I needed it.  Now that I have it, I can't imagine how I got along without it.  It's like PBS takes on a whole new dimension when you get BOB.  It's hard to explain how great a system it is, because the folks who don't have it can't see all of the nifty features.  Just in terms of being able to put together a series quickly, or grab a bunch you want to read by a specific author all at once, it's invaluable.  When the racy book thread went up, I was able to grab the set of Tara Janzen books from a BOB trade that same day - and it didn't cost me any credits.  And for the cost - it's like $8 per year.  To me, it almost doesn't make sense not to have it.  You go from sending a book out maybe 1-5 times per month, to having trades open practically always, usually for several books.  I always have a BOB pending & books en route, and when I want something, I use BOB to get it and save my credits for wishlisted stuff.



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Date Posted: 1/12/2008 12:30 AM ET
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My TBR pile has grown enough without BOB.  My goal is to get rid of books and not keep every single one I've read.

I don't have enough time to read to justify having books coming in constantly.  Having to spend a credit to get a book makes me think about what I'm ordering and decide if it's something I really want to read or not.

Date Posted: 1/12/2008 1:04 AM ET
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I've thought about doing it, but the hassle of putting together boxes of books always seems like too much for me.  And I get books faster than I can read them through book bazaar deals and library sale.

Date Posted: 1/12/2008 2:15 AM ET
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I'm with Sarah! My TBR pile is huge-mongous without being a boxer! I think it'd be different if boxers had different shelves in addition to their bookshelf here because I'd like the chance to make and get offers for the more expensive books. Iknow o thers don't feel this way but I've seen some in the bazaar a year or so ago w anting those huge coffee table books...those would cost a fortune to mail and just for 1 credit...I'd also like to swap like for like..say for instance ellora's cave books for the same genre and cookbooks for like material but if it's posted on your bookshelf then it's FIFO and not a boxer deal. I guess we could pm around  people we know and make boxer deals like these and if we're boxers we'd be 'legal' doing that..

ETA: ok, I'm with Sarah on the TBR pile being huge but otherwise I"m not that good LOL! I"m a big keeper too sigh...



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Date Posted: 1/12/2008 11:10 AM ET
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Lol!  leave it to you guys to bring up all the stuff I choose not to think about:P

Sarah has a point.  My TBR pile is taking over the world, and I need to get it whittled down.  I think the tendency when you get BOB is like the kid in a candy store thing.  You get big eyes for everything, and it doesn't take all that long to accumulate more than you can deal with.  BOB is still great though -  if used responsibly.  I think it's really just a matter of what your personal reading habits are.   I don't want to finish  a book and then spend the next week or two shopping around for the next thing I want to read.  I want to know what that is going to be and have it already.  I also don't mind keeping books after I've read them.  I can understand that for some, a shelf full of books is just so much clutter.  To me, it's a miniature library.

Date Posted: 1/12/2008 11:11 AM ET
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I agree completely, Sarah!  I need fewer books, not more :)  I've even made a New Year's resolution to stop looking at deals in the Bazaar because I have such a large TBR pile already.  Plus, I have had people who like books on my shelf try to talk me into being a boxer, but I never see many books on their shelves I want.  I know, other shelves would be different, but I would feel bad turning down offers. 

So, no BOB for me :)

Katrina

Date Posted: 1/12/2008 11:45 AM ET
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I don't venture into the Bazaar often either because I am way too tempted to shop for books!  I do have lots of bookshelves but I also have lots of boxes full of books that I can't even get at if I want to read them again.  My ultimate goal is to get everything I want to keep on my bookshelves and have nothing in boxes stored away.  Well, except for a box of books posted here to swap, LOL.

I'm slowly, slowly getting there but I know it's going to take quite a while.

Date Posted: 1/12/2008 1:04 PM ET
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Well you don't have to accept a trade with someone right? And it doesnt' have to be 1book for 1 book right. So if I have a couple tradesize erotica type books and someone wants them in a box-I can turn them down if I don't like whats on their shelf. Or I can ask for 2 of theirs for 1 of mine right? 

Well I'll think about it some more.  Maybe I'll join and see if I get any boxing offers.  Maybe it'll inspire me to post some of these books I have hanging around and will probably never read.  Plus the yearly fee helps support the PBS website.  That's a good thing.



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Date Posted: 1/12/2008 1:14 PM ET
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Yeah, I think definitely on a shelf and NOT in boxes or totes you coninuously stub your toes on!  I don't have those - now anyway.   I got my surplus stuff that was given to me cleaned out, and a lot of it went with the special this week.  My steaming BOB of Tara Janzen's Crazy series just came in today's mail, and the set looks great - nearly new condition.  It cost me 6 books I had listed on my bookshelf, and about 3 bucks to mail them out.  Best BOB testimonial I can give right there.

 

And yeah, Mary, you can decline or customize trades however you want.  People will either accept or decline them.  I get requests sometimes and the person doesn't have anything I want.  I'll usually offer them a 2 for 1 credit deal if they really want some of my books, or just decline the swap.  No biggie.



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Date Posted: 1/12/2008 1:41 PM ET
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I went ahead and signed up.  I don't think I'll make any box offers to anyone. But I decided I'd put my shelf up there and see if I get any that I want to accept.  I'd rather put unread books into storage that I can read later and the UBS isn't going to give me much for the ones on my shelf.  I'll be able to go to the storage unit anytime I want to get books. At least until it's packed up by the military and that won't be until summer.  I have a lot of credits but I can sell those for postage and save them for WL offers and books I can't get from a boxer. 

Date Posted: 1/12/2008 2:23 PM ET
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Congrats Mary on being a boxer.  I think you'll like it.  I have gotten so many great deals on books there.  And occasionally I run a deal with another boxer where I offer them 2 books in trade when I only get 1 back.  That whittles down my shelf a bit.  Plus being a boxer allows you to get some books that maybe you didn't want to spend a credit on but kind of wanted to read.   Being a brand new boxer I'm sure you'll get a few offers right off the bat.

Sherri

Date Posted: 1/12/2008 7:06 PM ET
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Mary, you can always turn down a BOB offer but if you post any tradesize books, esp erotica, they're probably gonna be wishlisted and never get a chance to be offered in a BOB. I think I'm probably gonna go ahead and sign up too, mainly to support PBS. Just haven't done it yet LOL! but thinking one fo these days I'm gonna turn loose of some books LOL, esp these category romances for other category romances..no reason to keep everything but the ones I've liekd I tendt o wanna keep 'cause I do go back and re-read stuff.

Lori V. (cjsmom) - ,
Date Posted: 1/12/2008 7:21 PM ET
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I bet you will love it Mary!  Yes my TBR pile is big but I have gotten so many books that I would not have spent a credit on.  I also LOVE that there are so many fun people out there to look.  I have sent books out that were on my shelf for ages and there were 70+ copies in the system. 

Lori

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 12:06 AM ET
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Well I came back from a day out of the house to find 2 swap offers.  I have a small shelf right now so I was suprised to see the 1st offer was asking for 11 books. I'm thinking yay!  Until I looked at their shelf and they also have a small shelf. I've read several of the books already.  Most of the other ones had no info available or even a picture.  I felt bad but I declined.  The 2nd person asked for 1 book (and had a huge shelf of course).  I found one of my RL books on their shelf and accepted the offer.  So I guess it's ok so far.  I still feel guilty about declining one but I just couldn't find anything I wanted. 

Ok off to finish An Accidental Mistress.



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Date Posted: 1/13/2008 1:25 AM ET
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I still feel guilty about declining offers too - which is why I offer the two for one deals if somebody really wants some of my books.  Silly, but there it is.   I also do a lot of little extras in my BOBs.  I tissue wrap my books to give them a little extra protection under the plastic, put in one of my handmade bookmarks, often throw in a bonus book, like if there's a sequel to something they wanted & I have it,  I'll put that in there too.  I haven't been BOBing long, but I put in some extra effort to please the people who trade with me.

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 12:42 PM ET
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Well if she had had anything I wanted I would have negotiated a bit.  I have no real problem with 2 for 1 if I had found something on her shelf I wanted.  I almost ordered a couple just to make the deal. But then I though I really don't want these books.  I'd rather just leave mine as it is and see if another offer comes through. 

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 3:20 PM ET
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Mary I only do big deals - like the 11 book deal you described - on BOB if I've traded with them before or I "know" them from the forums.  Another girl I know here at PBS did an 8 book BOB trade and never got the books she ordered.  So it makes me kind of wary doing that many at once.  Better safe than sorry.  Plus you didn't see any you wanted to start with!

Sherri

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 4:43 PM ET
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Yeah, I would keep it small & simple until you get used to it, and until you get to know a few people from trading with them - which can happen fairly quickly.  And definitely don't be shy about declining offers if they don't have what you want.  The whole point of BOB is to trade for the things you want without using up your credits.  The multiple trades are great, as long as you're getting books you want, and not just randomly picking books because someone wants 6, and they only have 3 or 4 that interest you.  I sometimes pick one or two I want and just message them and let them know to modify their list.  i haven't had a problem yet.  Everyone I've swapped with so far has been very pleasant to work with.  Check their feedback before initiating or accepting swaps, and only offer deals or bonus books if that's what you want to do.  Both parties should be happy with a BOB trade.

Date Posted: 1/13/2008 9:58 PM ET
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So someone just made an offer for half my shelf and I couldn't find anything on their shelf I wanted.  It was mostly kids books or romances so old I couldn't find any info on them. Now I dont' mind older romances, love them in fact. But these were older series ones w/no picture and no plot info listed.  I looked a couple up on Amazon adn even they had no info. Kids books would have been ok but they were all too young for my daughter.   I didn't expect to feel quilty about turning down requests. 

But Kim accepted my 2 book offer and she had 2 of my RL books.  So maybe it wasn't such a bad idea afterall.

Subject: Welcome new boxers!!
Date Posted: 1/15/2008 11:58 AM ET
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I love being a boxer!!  It is so much fun to get a group of books in the mail.  But, I am easy to please, LOL!!  Welcome to the newbie boxers!!  Most people find that they get a rush of requests right away and then it tapers off to a manageable level. 

Date Posted: 1/15/2008 6:53 PM ET
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Well I got 2 more offers since my last post on this.  I accepted the 1st one-they asked for a newer release unabridged audio CD which is 2 credits.  I found 2 books I was interested in on their shelf and put them in my box.  2 days later-no response.  If it gets ordered with credits I'm accepting the order and cancelling the box. The next one was a brand new boxer asking for 2 books. She had 2 of my RL's on her shelf-so great.  I dread the ones with like 19 books because I know I will not find anything near that on their shelf. 

So how long to you wait for a response before cancelling or accepting another request for the book?

Date Posted: 1/15/2008 7:16 PM ET
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I offered someone a BOB on the 8th of this month.  It is still sitting there.  I figure it doesn't hurt anything for it to be there.  The person might be on vacation or something and hopefully will see it eventually.