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Subject: Canceling a Book under the Textbook Exception
Date Posted: 6/6/2013 5:53 PM ET
Member Since: 6/30/2007
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I have a book that's just been requested after being on my shelf since 2008! Unfortunately, I need to contact the requestor to see if they'll accept the book as there is a little bit of underlining from a college course. Hopefully this will be okay.

But, would it be alright if I asked them to cancel the request if they don't want it? Then I can put my shelf on vacation hold for a day or so while they request it again from the FIFO. I know this is not standard procedure, but I don't see any downside for them other than a small delay while we PM, which could happen under any circumstances.

Since it's not WL (there are at least 3 copies) they'll get the next person when they re-request it. I know that the help docs say the sender should cancel under these circumstances, but gosh, I've been waiting 5 almost years!

Date Posted: 6/6/2013 7:59 PM ET
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Personally, I don't see the harm in asking, as the requestor would not be penalized for honoring your request, should they choose to do so.

Sianeka - ,
Date Posted: 6/7/2013 10:44 AM ET
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Just playing devil's advocate here ... (and I really questioned whether or not I should even bring this up, but I felt it needed to be pointed out)

The other members who have posted copies of this book here have probably also been waiting about 5 years to get their book requested, and they may NOT have textbook copies (copies with writing/underlining/highlighting in them).  It isn't fair to ask THEM to continue waiting longer to send out their books.  And to continue holding your place in the FIFO sendout line when the procedures were DESIGNED to make books that are NOT actually textbooks and workbooks but which are falling under the textbook guidelines fall to the back of the FIFO order.

So, even while it may seem that it would cause no harm, it actually does penalize the other members with copies of this book posted.

FROM THE HELP CENTER:

So, the farther the book is from a 'textbook' in common perception, the more likely it will be difficult to get consent to its condition.  Members in Member B's situation (owner of a book with writing/underlining/highlighting that is not actually a textbook/workbook) may encounter several declines, and will eventually realize that the book is not likely to be acceptable to the club in its condition.  Member B will stop trying to offer it as a "textbook"  and will consider it instead an unpostable/damaged book.



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Sianeka - ,
Date Posted: 6/7/2013 10:49 AM ET
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And it may be a moot point.  Requester may decide to accept this copy with a small amount of underlining and this copy will get sent out.  *fingers crossed*

Date Posted: 6/7/2013 12:59 PM ET
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Sianeka, thanks, I agree; I didn't think of it from the next person's perspective. However, this is one of the few rules where I wish there were a better option for the sender, though I can't think of any way to make it work other than what I suggested. After all, regardless if I cancel or the requestor cancels and then reorders while I'm on hold, the next person FIFO will get the order; this way I'm simply avoiding going to the end of the line and I'll be first up the next time (the third person in line is still third). This small exchange of PMs won't take any longer than the normal five day window to accept the request.

I would normally not have any problem canceling a request on a more quickly moving book that I can't send for some reason (i.e. lost it, damaged it; want to keep it, just don't want to send it, don't have time, ran our of tape, etc.) and it would come off my shelf and I'd repost it to try again. It's too bad in this case it would have to come off my shelf completely when I'm at the top of FIFO and fully prepared to send it to anyone wanting it.

Nonetheless, you're right and it has become a moot point, as the requester is fine with the underlining.smiley



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Sianeka - ,
Date Posted: 6/7/2013 1:47 PM ET
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I am truly glad this copy was accepted and this did not have to be at issue!  Glad you can send your copy out! *smile*

"After all, regardless if I cancel or the requestor cancels and then reorders while I'm on hold, the next person FIFO will get the order; this way I'm simply avoiding going to the end of the line and I'll be first up the next time (the third person in line is still third). This small exchange of PMs won't take any longer than the normal five day window to accept the request."

Yes, but the third person WOULD'VE become the SECOND person in line, (or FIRST person in line if the next person in FIFO got your order) and thus will be delayed by your textbook copy being in line at the front again. And if there did happen to be other copies in the system, they also would've been additionally delayed.



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