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Subject: I don't own a car, I can't get to P.O. until Sat. Morning!
Date Posted: 6/26/2009 4:13 AM ET
Member Since: 6/20/2009
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The shipping deadline is Friday night at 11:00 pm. If I click the already shipped button to recieve the credits, the actual shipping date will be a day later. Is this ok?

There is no doubt at all that I can ship the books on Saturday morning, I have absolutely no transportation all day Friday. I also have no PBS money, so I have to take the books to the post office. Am I screwed?

Date Posted: 6/26/2009 4:34 AM ET
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that is probably fine. I think there is so many days from you mail that allows it to get there anyways. so I'm sure one day is fine!

Date Posted: 6/26/2009 5:24 AM ET
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I'm too lazy to check the help docs, but I *know* I've seen that you can do that if you definitely will be mailing w/in 24hrs of clicking "mailed."

Date Posted: 6/26/2009 6:26 AM ET
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Actually Melissa, it's within 48 hours. Under extreme circumstances (no transportation, irregular computer access, emergency, etc.) you're allowed to mark a book mailed up to two days prior to actually mailing it. PBS does have deadlines, but they're also logical enough to know that sometimes things in life are wonky, so they built a little leeway into the system. I know it's in the help docs.

FROM HELP CENTER:

A book must be mailed within 48 hours of marking it mailed

  • It is okay to mark your book mailed before you have mailed it if:

    • The deadline date falls on a postal holiday
    • Your computer/Internet access is unreliable
    • You plan to mail the book on your way out of town
  • It is not okay to mark your book mailed and delay mailing it for longer than 48 hours
    • We understand that sometimes circumstances interfere with prompt mailing!  But this should not be a habit.
    • If your mailing is delayed, you must inform the requestor as soon as possible, so that she doesn't think the book is lost in the mail if it was merely mailed late.

 

I would think your reasons are valid enough so it's not a problem.

Date Posted: 6/26/2009 11:29 AM ET
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It's fine.  I spent a long time with only Saturday as my mailing date.  Sometimes I'd delay accepting a request for a couple days to push that deadline forward--but people got more annoyed if I didn't answer than if I mailed one day "late".

Date Posted: 6/26/2009 11:32 AM ET
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I always wrap my books up and mark them mailed at night. I take them to the PO the next morning.

Date Posted: 6/26/2009 1:38 PM ET
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In the future you can avoid being in this situation by taking advantage of the time that the system gives you to accept and agree to mail books. You have five days to mail the book from the day you accept, so if someone orders one of your books on say, Saturday, you can wait until Monday to accept, and then choose the farthest day out to mail the book, which should be the following Saturday. Does that make sense? As others have said, it should be OK this time, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Especially when you can work within the system to avoid it.
Date Posted: 6/26/2009 2:03 PM ET
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TPTB clarified this for me awhile back.  Here's my original email to them and their response:

Dear Bernhard,

Yes, if you mark a book mailed on (for example) Wednesday that means either that you have actually mailed it, or that it will be in the mail on Friday at the latest.  There is no rule about how early you mail - just about not mailing too late.

Of course there are other things than the examples in the Help Center that can come up and delay a Wednesday mailing until Thursday or Friday - too many to list in the Help Center.  We hope that members are not being overly concerned about this.  We would expect requestors to give senders the benefit of the doubt, just as we expect senders to mail on the date they mark mailed, if they possibly can. 

While we want everyone to respect the rules of the club, bookswapping is not brain surgery - precision is not a matter of life-or-death!  Members need to be considerate of each other in both directions.

Have a great day!

The PaperBackSwap Team


<Original email below>

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Regarding: None
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I would like to get a clarification of the guidelines please.  Currently, the help docs say this about marking a book mailed:

A book must be mailed within 48 hours of marking it mailed

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      It is okay to mark your book mailed before you have mailed it if:
          o The deadline date falls on a postal holiday
          o Your computer/Internet access is unreliable
          o You plan to mail the book on your way out of town
    * It is not okay to mark your book mailed and delay Mailing it for longer than 48 hours
          o We understand that sometimes circumstances interfere with prompt mailing!  But this should not be a habit.
          o If your mailing is delayed, you must inform the requestor as soon as possible, so that she doesn't think the book is lost in the mail if it was merely mailed late.

In the forums there is much debate over how this is to be interpreted.  On the one side you have those who maintain that you should never mark a book mailed before it is placed in a collection box, and that the only exceptions to this rule is the three reasons listed below the opening statement.  On the other side of the debate are those who say that these are only examples, and that the opening statement (A book must be mailed within 48 hours of marking it mailed) allows for a book being marked as mailed up to 48 hours prior to it being placed in a collection box.  Some of the first group have even said that marking a book mailed just before you walk out the door to go to the mailbox or post office is unacceptable.

Would you please be so kind as to clarify the site position on this matter?  Are those, in fact, the only times it is okay to mark a book mailed before it is placed in a collection box, or are they only examples?

The way I understand this rule is that if I were, for example, to mark a book as "mailed" at noon on a Wednesday, I would have from noon on the prior Monday to noon on the following Friday, to actually place the book in a collection box.  I believe I am correct in this, but I would greatly appreciate your clarification of this matter.



Last Edited on: 6/26/09 2:03 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/26/2009 4:08 PM ET
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You also get a 48 hr grace period past that "mail by" time to actually mark the book mailed before the request gets cancelled.

I'd definitely mark mailed on Friday night though since you'll get them in the mail first thing Saturday morning.  You can do that.

Subject: Mailing Saturday morning
Date Posted: 6/26/2009 10:37 PM ET
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There are lots of times I mark a book as mailed  and then stop by the PO on the way to work.  It should be fine to mark it mailed Friday night but make sure to get to the PO in the AM on Saturday.

Date Posted: 6/27/2009 2:32 AM ET
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What Liesl said :-)

Thanks for sharing that information Bernhard!

Date Posted: 6/27/2009 2:42 AM ET
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I'd posted it before Denise, but couldn't remember in what thread, so I just copied it again from my email client.

 

Date Posted: 6/28/2009 12:09 PM ET
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Jesse, that's what I would do.  Don't sweat it.  If it was several days later, then it could be an issue, but you're going the next morning.  It's all good.  :)