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Subject: Cat Yoga Postcards--Postable?
Date Posted: 7/29/2011 8:58 AM ET
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I have a boxed set of 32 postcards.  The title is Cat Yoga Postcards, and the ISBN No. is 978-0-307-39542-9.  It does pop up in the PaperBackSwap database.  But I'm still not sure whether it can be posted.  One  rule I saw was that "anything not a book" is verboten, but does the fact that it has an ISBN make it a book by definition?

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 9:18 AM ET
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No. Having an ISBN does not make something postable. Sorry!
Date Posted: 7/29/2011 9:50 AM ET
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Pam, I have ordered postcard books from PBS before. I love them. Why can't you post them?

 



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Date Posted: 7/29/2011 9:52 AM ET
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Because they aren't books...

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 9:53 AM ET
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Books that contain Postcards.... still a book?  Boxed sets of cards of many types are also available here; thay are desirable and a lot fun.

ie. tarot cards, meditation cards, etc.

There are lots of wishers for this type of reading material. What would be the harm?



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Date Posted: 7/29/2011 10:26 AM ET
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My sister joined about a year ago. Of the 20 or so books she's recieved the one she likes best it a set of post cards ( Victorian, I think). They may have a slightly different format ( I'm not sure what you mean by "box" of cards) but fulfill all other qualifications--No advertising, ISBN, good condition. I say go for it.

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 11:15 AM ET
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Unbound pages, papers, etc. are not postable so if it's just a box of unbound post cards, they wouldn't be postable. If it's a bound book of post cards, that may be different. Although, I'd check with TPTB before I'd post anything questionable. They do sound neat though.

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 11:30 AM ET
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There are lots of wishers for this type of reading material. What would be the harm? You are violating the Terms of Use of the site by posting things they state should not be posted here?

Boxed sets of cards have been clearly stated as not postable here for credit. They should not even be offered in the book bazaar for credit.

Things that are not books should not be posted. If it is not a book, even if it is postcards in a folder that looks like a book, it is not media mail and it is not eligible to be posted here. Sending it anyway, a savy postal worker catches it and it arrives postage due at the other end and you end up paying more than a credits worth in postage to send the stuff.



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Date Posted: 7/29/2011 12:44 PM ET
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There are a lot of things posted on here and wished for on here that do NOT follow the rules.  That does NOT make it right and when you order them you just encourage others to not follow the site guidelines.

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 1:19 PM ET
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LOL I have a Queen Mother paperdoll book on my WL and I know that it would not be a postable book, but I found it will shopping around on this site. It is only using up one spot on my WL, and I think it is so funny and cute.

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 3:12 PM ET
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What about this, Smoothies  ? It's a boxed set of 50 recipe cards. I thought it would be postable, but now I'm not sure. Thanks:)

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 3:53 PM ET
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No Les it is not postable. 

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 4:42 PM ET
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Sometimes we need to go to the Help Center and review the basics.

http://www.paperbackswap.com/help/search.php?terms=postable 

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 5:47 PM ET
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Usually anything listed as Misc. Supplies or Cards is not a book and would not be postable on PBS.

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 7:21 PM ET
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The Post Office rules on what can be sent media mail are very restrictive.  Anything that can't be send media mail can't be posted on this site. 

So far, PBS has a good reputation.  We send books and audio books.  A post office will examine a few PBS packages and will start to trust the wrapper.  If they examine a PBS media mail package and find a set of boxed cards, though, they'll be more likely to want to examine other packages with PBS labels.  Some Post Offices don't rewrap the things they've examined as well as they should, and it's going to cause problems.

If you find a listing for something that shouldn't be posted here, you can tag is as non postable.  If there's an "order" button on it, please tag it and list in on the red "suspicious items" thread at the top of this discussion forum.

 

Date Posted: 7/29/2011 8:28 PM ET
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Good to know. I understand about the Misc Supplies, and it makes sense.

I also have  Hungry Girl Chew the Right Thing, and it's listed as Hardcover (under book type);  it wouldn't have crossed my mind, that it wasn't postable, if I hadn't run across this thread. I tagged it (non-postable), since there's no order button (it's got a wl of 431, last posted in May, but not by me, I have my recipe cards:) 

Date Posted: 7/30/2011 12:04 AM ET
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Wow -- given that PBS Market offers Hungry Girl Chew the Right Thing as one of its "super seller" books, I would think it would be postable. I would check with TPTB -- it is odd that it is listed as a hardcover in the PBS data base and in the PBS market, but as "miscellaneous supplies" in the Amazon description.

Date Posted: 7/30/2011 7:26 AM ET
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I don't think the Help Doc really covers this situation. I don't think  "loose pages"  is the right category--it's not clear whether a card would be considered a page.  It's interesting that Deb B. pointed out that PBS is offering a set of recipe cards.  So it looks  like a "book" can be boxed as well as bound. 

But a cursory search of Media Mail rules didn't answer the question of whether a box of cards would qualify.  I did find one Q&A where someone combined a query about cards & photos.  It was answered by a postal worker who's a moderator in a postal info site, but aside from answering "Yes," he went on only to refer to photos, so I wasn't sure whether he was just focusing on photos & ignoring the question of cards.

As a side note, I went to the ISBN website.  At first glance, it seemed like the eligibility rules to qualify for an ISBN were fairly strict, but then I noticed several exceptions where "if required by the retailer" an ISBN can be given.  It seems like for some of these, exceptions a single ISBN is given to a publisher for all like items that cost the same amount, i.e. greeting cards. 

Date Posted: 7/30/2011 10:54 AM ET
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My postal staff is rarely wrong, and they state Media Mail to be 'Bound Printed Matter' ... thus flash cards, photos, and such are not elegible for Media Mail rates.  I would say a box of cards does not qualify for Media Mail rates ... maybe PBS uses a different postal rate when mailing the recipe cards? 

CD's and DVD's also qualify as MM, but not if they are blank.  Same with blank journals and address books.



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Date Posted: 7/30/2011 12:47 PM ET
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This is only a short list, but note the exception for medical info, either loose leaf pages or in binders, so maybe photos in an album would qualify also? 

MEDIA MAIL

Generally used for books (at least eight pages), film, printed music, printed test materials, sound recordings, play scripts, printed educational charts, loose-leaf pages and binders consisting of medical information, and computer-readable media. Advertising restrictions apply. There are presorted prices available for bulk quantities of Media Mail (minimum quantity is 300 pieces). There is also a barcoded discount available for Media Mail.

 I feel like I might be beating this topic to death, so this is my last comment.

But it's interesting to think that just when you think you know a subject, there are all these lesser-known exceptions and additions!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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