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Subject: I need to check better.........................
Date Posted: 6/17/2010 4:29 PM ET
Member Since: 4/5/2010
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guess this is my week of snotty people. I got a book the other day it looked good, but I didnt really check it like I should have. Marked it ok and then went to read it last night and there are 2 sections that the pages are very bad crinkled. iI pm the person nicely ( didnt ask for credits back ) and just told her she needed to check her books better before sending them. So she replies that she had had the book on her bookshelf and gotten it from another person so she guess its my issue ! Plus side I did recieve 2 very nice books today ! I wonder if the person that sends these would like it if they got a book like they sent out. Ok did my little vent !

Date Posted: 6/17/2010 4:49 PM ET
Member Since: 1/30/2009
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Unless the crinkling was due to some sort of liquid damage, the book wasn't actually unpostable.  Only if the crinkling was so awful that it could not be considered to be in good condition.  But even so, it would still be a judgement call.  This might be the reason the person was less than thrilled to receive your PM.

Have you maybe thought to try flattening the pages out by pressing the book under something heavy? Perhaps a dictionary or large reference book?  That might help.

Date Posted: 6/17/2010 7:49 PM ET
Member Since: 12/19/2007
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I have found damage to books after the fact as well and it is always frustrating but I would never think to contact the sender at that point.  If I didn't inspect the book closely when I received it, it really is my problem.

Still, it's a book that I can't, in good conscience, repost so it's frustrating.

Date Posted: 6/18/2010 7:35 AM ET
Member Since: 6/13/2009
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This has just happened to me also, a book I recieved some months ago. I just started to read the book and noticed that there are several pages with writing on them.  The writing is in the form of footnotes with descriptions of Irish words or phrases that are used in the book (it's written by an Irish author).  Although this may be helpful to those not familiar with Ireland, it is actually not in compliance with the PBS posting guidelines.

Yes, it was my responsibility to mark it a RWAP at the time, so my fault and now I'm not comfortable reposting the book even though its a WL book frown

Date Posted: 6/18/2010 8:33 AM ET
Member Since: 8/25/2007
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I have found damage to books after the fact as well and it is always frustrating but I would never think to contact the sender at that point.  If I didn't inspect the book closely when I received it, it really is my problem.

ITA.  I also made the mistake in the past of not thoroughly checking books and then later finding an issue, but did not PM the sender.  There's no point in doing it after-the-fact, IMO.

Date Posted: 6/18/2010 8:34 AM ET
Member Since: 10/23/2005
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Judith, there is a thread in the Book Bazaar where you can post unpostable WL books for a credit. You will probably get a taker there.

Date Posted: 6/18/2010 8:40 AM ET
Member Since: 5/14/2009
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Judith, you can post the book in the book bazaar and ask for a credit.  There is a thread for non-postable  books, you can ask for a credit, but you need to describe the damage.  Post Your Unpostable Wishlist Books Here.  

Also you can post the book and if it is requested, you need to PM the requester describing the underlining or highlighting and they must approve before you can send the book.

ETA:  Cheryl is faster

From the Help Docs

What is the definition of a textbook?

Actually, the way the system and rules are designed, it does not matter what the "objective definition" of a textbook is.  The club members decide this - as long as the rules in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS are followed.  See the explanation and examples below.

If a member considers her book a textbook she may Post it with underlining/highlighting/writing on text pages, according to the "textbook exception" in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS; BUT since the textbook exception in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS require her to contact the requestor and obtain PM consent to the book's condition, she won't be in the position of sending a "stealth textbook" to someone who doesn't expect to receive one.

Examples/further explanation:

  • Member A posts an Economics 101 textbook - something that most people would clearly consider a textbook.   
  • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
  • Chances are good that she will get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc. 
  • Member B posts a novel (fiction) that she used in a class - something that most people would NOT consider a textbook.
    • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
    • Chances are good that she will NOT get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc.
    • If the requestor declines the book in its condition, Member B will have to cancel the request and repost her book.  It will go to the 'back of the line' for requests.  (If it is a Wish Listed book, it will be offered to the same wisher and the sender will again have to cancel.  She will have to wait for the wishing member to get a copy of this book from someone else before Member B can post her copy again.)

So, the farther the book is from a 'textbook' in common perception, the more likely it will be difficult to get consent to its condition.  Members in Member B's situation may encounter several declines, and will eventually realize that the book is not likely to be acceptable to the club in its condition.  Member B will stop trying to offer it as a "textbook"  and will consider it instead an unpostable/damaged book.

In this way, the club defines "textbook" on a case-by-case basis, and no one who is following the rules will be able to "surprise" another person with a highlighted/written-in/underlined book.



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