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L. G. (L)
Subject: Cleansing Rituals/Smudging?
Date Posted: 4/30/2008 2:59 PM ET
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Does anyone practice cleansing rituals on a regular basis?  By "cleansing rituals" I mean body as well as environment.

I was smudging the house on a regular basis but I no longer have easy access to sage.  I was also doing a monthyfast but since I have been sick I haven't done one.

I think both the house and myself need it, LOL!!!

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 5:11 PM ET
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If feng shui counts then I guess so, since a friend just helped me with spring cleaning and rearranged all my furniture according to the rules of feng shui.  And it's a much more convinient set up too.

But I've never heard of smudging, what's that?

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 4/30/2008 7:08 PM ET
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It's a Native American ritual where you burn sage or cedar, or other natural herbs while in prayer, and use the smoke to cleanse the environment and energy of the space.

Here's a link that sort of describes it:

http://www.asunam.com/smudge_ceremony.html

There's no "right" or "wrong" way to do it - that it be done in earnest with good intent is all that is required.  The energy of the space is changed afterward.  May feel a "lightening" or "lifting" of the spirit.

Generally you use a bundle of the herbs and light them, and allow them to burn in a natural vessel - either a clay pot or a shell.  You then cleanse each room by moving the vessel from room to room, repeating your prayers.  Some conclude by offering the ashes to the Earth, though that is not required.

 

 

 

Date Posted: 4/30/2008 9:08 PM ET
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I usually keep a dish of sea salt in every room and change it once a month unless things are really tense..then I do it more often...I like smudging or burning incense...I don't have access to smudge sticks or anything like that anymore...I guess I could make my own if I got really motivated  :)

 

I use essential oils in the bath regularly (those are varied depending on what I feel like I need at the time)...but I really should do a detox..I need to after going off all my meds.



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Date Posted: 5/2/2008 3:10 PM ET
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I have never smudged. From all the accounts of hauntings Ive read and all the documentaries Ive seen Ive come to the conclusion that if there is such a thing as a demon/evil spirit/entity then smudging ticks them off and isnt effective at getting rid of them. Ive never read or seen anything where smudging helped. Nor have I ever read or seen anything where having a clergyman bless the house has helped. Its pretty much formulaic, smudge/bless tick off the thing it gets worse and people move.

Now I am not an expert but I am fascinated with the paranormal and have studied it from childhood. About 15 years of reading and watching everything I could get my hands on so I can say I base that on a lot of research.

I have no knowledge of smudging a "clean" house to keep the bad things away though. All my knowledge is what happens when the bad thing is already there.

Date Posted: 5/2/2008 3:27 PM ET
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No I've never even heard of this. It sounds kind of like all religions... trying to reach up to God when He reached down to man in Jesus Christ.

Why use the herbs and stuff in prayer? Why not just do what is required of us to have our prayers heard... repent of sin (agreeing with God that we've disobeyed His Commands) and trust in Jesus Christ's righteousness on the cross? He doesn't require herbs and things like that, but a humble heart and He gives grace and mercy. (Isaiah 66:1,2)

Before I was born again, I tried many things, not this smudging and herb stuff, but followed some pretty strange things and am so glad I heard the truth, that I can't climb up to God, I can only cry out for mercy and believe He already condescended down to man. And woman!!!! :) I tried following the Nostradamus prophecies, palm readings, praying to the god I made up, breaking the first and second Commandments, etc. I tried SO hard to be right with God until I finally understood that in God's economy, I'm not a good person and my good is not going to outweigh my bad on Judgment Day.

Check out this website: http://www.NeedGod.com

God bless you guys...

 

 

Date Posted: 5/2/2008 7:05 PM ET
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Well Tamara not everyone is a Christian thats why not everyone just repents.

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Date Posted: 5/2/2008 7:12 PM ET
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I do a self ritual cleansing about every 6 months.  I'm in need now, so I think I might this weekend--or wait for the esbat.

I don't do a sage/incense smudge cleansing anymore because of my asthma, but I do practice Feng Shui.

 

 

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 12:28 AM ET
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Chris B.

I know not everyone is a Christian. That's why Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'"

But He's meaning more the hypocrites in church who aren't saved (born again), the false teachers you see on "Christian" t.v., and the cult members.

But... Jesus will be bowed to whether you or anyone considers Him Lord. He is Lord regardless of whether anyone believes Him or not. There is only one truth, not many. If there were many truths, then I could just make up my own truth and obey that, hence the chaos in the world. In other words, rapists say, "rape is right for me" while judges say, "rape is wrong for all and you're going to jail." Somebody is right and somebody is wrong!

Anyway, here's a verse in the Bible about what we all will be doing after we're dead (notice the word "every"):

Phillipians 2:10,11: "at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

He commands you to repent of your sin just like everyone else. It's your choice... be an enemy of God or be humble before Him. Not everyone wants mercy. Some love their sin... I understand. I was there for a long time always wondering why I was never at peace.

Have a wonderful night,

Tamara

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Date Posted: 5/3/2008 1:08 AM ET
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Tamara, I know you feel the need to share your love for Jesus with us, and to try to sway us to your way of thinking, but we really want to talk about cleansing rituals and smudging.  Can you find somewhere else to proselytize?

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 11:43 AM ET
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Thank you, Tammy..lol

 

I don't believe in demons and such...

Smudging is used to clear negative energies and emotions...it cleanses and/or (depending on what you use) purifies..

I use sea salt to absorb negative energies because I do not have access to stores that sell smudge sticks and such...



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Date Posted: 5/3/2008 3:38 PM ET
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I am really interested in the sea salt to absorb negative energies, how do you do it? Where do you put it, etc?

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 8:31 PM ET
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I just put it in small dishes and set the dishes were they won't be in the way or get knocked over....I use a couple of tablespoons and change it every month or more if I feel like it needs it.

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 11:15 PM ET
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My neighbor, who was Wiccan, used to burn sage in her house quite a bit. I never asked why. It never occurred to me to ask why. I hated the smell of it, though. Smelled like pot to me. She always got her sage sticks at one of those "new age" shops. It smelled good before she burnt it, but the smell of burning dried sage is just yucky to me. Thank you for clearning up the mystery for me. It never crossed my mind to ask. It was just something she did.

She did something else with fans, too. It's been years. I can't remember what she was doing. She had a lot of rituals that she did. Anyone know what she might have been doing with fans? The big kind, made of wicker or rattan? Not electric.

Date Posted: 5/3/2008 11:39 PM ET
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Some people use fans when they smudge to help *waft* (can't think of a good word here) the smoke around ..direct it..that's the only thing that is coming to mind right now..

=)

 

You can use other herbs to do a space cleaning...my brain is starting to shut off for the night...but I can post some in the morning if your are interested..You might find they are easier on your nose than the sage..



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L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 5/4/2008 6:44 AM ET
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With the Christian formum being not a click away, why does this forum have to be invaded by Christian proselytization?  Nothing more obnoxious.

Chris, I never smudged to get rid of "negative entities" per say - I don't believe in negative entities or demons or anything like that.  It's more like an an adjustment of chi, if you follow Eastern philosophy at all.

Candice - thanks for the idea about salt - I had fogotten about that!

Some people think that blowing on the sage affects it's usefulness, so they use fans to waft it.  I think there are other rituals that use fans, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment too.

I also know that some people use cedar to smudge.

Date Posted: 5/4/2008 9:20 AM ET
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Do these burning herbs do anything physically to a space? Or is it all for a spiritual-type purpose?

Date Posted: 5/4/2008 11:46 AM ET
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Your welcome, L! LOL

 

 

Some herbs have cleansing/purifying/protecting properties, like sage..

 

Here are a few...

 

rosemary, violet and wisteria have protective qualities..

basil (use caution when using basil, don't breath it in directly), lilac and gardenia help bring harmony into your space

cinnamon, clove, jasmine and lavender are purifying...use caution when burning spices though...they can be irritants

 

You can burn the leaves/flowers/spices or spritz an essential oil mixture into the air...I don't get too fancy..lol



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L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 5/4/2008 12:15 PM ET
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Michelle wrote:Do these burning herbs do anything physically to a space? Or is it all for a spiritual-type purpose?

If you are talking strictly physics, it leaves a fragrance (or "odor" if you dont like it, LOL) behind.

Otherwise, it changes the energy in the room.  Not sure how to describe what I mean, because it's something you feel, and a lot of people aren't sensitive to such feelings/awarenesses.  It's sort of an "uplifting" feeling in the space.

Everyone does it for different reasons or purpose.  For me, it's a ritual of renewal, and sort of brings me back to my spiritual base - grounds me, if you will.  Others do it as a pretext to prayer or meditation.  There is no right or wrong.

 

 

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If you are talking strictly physics, it leaves a fragrance (or "odor" if you dont like it, LOL) behind.

Otherwise, it changes the energy in the room.  Not sure how to describe what I mean, because it's something you feel, and a lot of people aren't sensitive to such feelings/awarenesses.  It's sort of an "uplifting" feeling in the space.

Everyone does it for different reasons or purpose.  For me, it's a ritual of renewal, and sort of brings me back to my spiritual base - grounds me, if you will.  Others do it as a pretext to prayer or meditation.  There is no right or wrong.

 

Yeah, and most herbs and such can 'multitask'...lol

 

Also, just because and herb or whatever has a use that is 'known'  doesn't mean you can't use it differently if it feels right to you, like L said-there is no right or wrong.

Date Posted: 5/4/2008 12:37 PM ET
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so a techincal question.... I have sage, rosemary, and lavender in my garden... I could dry some of those, then burn it in a clay pot?  is that the "techincal" aspects of how it is done, or is there something else needed?

I love lavender and use it as a relaxant all the time (spray on my pillow and bubble bath)... I'd love it if I could use it to "cleanse" my house too :)

Date Posted: 5/4/2008 12:39 PM ET
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You don't have to have anything really other than intent.  Some people will use spells/prayers/whatever and do a ritual of sorts ...not me..i just put some sea salt in a bowl or burn/spray whatever I need with the knowledge and intent that it will help 'clear the air' or whatever I am doing it for..I don't feel the need for ritual or anything for what I consider to be basic housekeeping...



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Date Posted: 5/4/2008 1:01 PM ET
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Thakns Candice for the sea salt into - is it just regular old sea salf from the grocery store?

BTW, smudging is an old American Indian ritual for cleansing - can you imagine how stanky their teepees got ;)

Date Posted: 5/4/2008 1:03 PM ET
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I get sea salt wherever I can find it..

Date Posted: 5/4/2008 1:30 PM ET
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My wife uses plain old Frontier brand sea salt that we get at the natural foods store. We paid a premium one time for some sal de mer blue-grey crystals, didn't notice any difference, and went back to the ordinary sea salt.

Sainted MIL taught my wife to smudge with sage every month after her period was over. A time of renewal, I guess, although DW finds it hard to put into words. She continues the practice now, even though she is a crone (her word) at the new moon. She doesn't do it to scare away bad things, as far as I can tell, so much as to rebalance her personal energy.

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