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Subject: Condition of book
Date Posted: 2/27/2008 7:03 PM ET
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I'm asking this here because I feel I won't get a million different answers and I plan on reposting this hf book eventually to someone here.

Got a book today and am not sure how to mark it received.  About 50 pages in the middle of the book are really wavy on the bottoms of the pages.  How can you tell exactly if it's water damage?  There's no stains (aside from what looks like a small spot of dirt opposite the spine but not in the area of the waviness.)  I've had blatant water damage before (obvios tea, coffee, etc) so that's why I'm having a hard time determining this, especially as I hope to repost this.

I browsed thru the help and didn't seem to find a way to determine if it's water damage vs something else.  Thanks to anyone in advance!

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 7:46 PM ET
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Pure water, as opposed to coffee or tea, will leave the pages wavy. Even rain or steam, if it wets the pages of a book, will make them wavy. So the fact that they're wavy indicates water damage in violation of the book conditions here.

That said, I have accepted books with slight water damage mostly because I think it's something a lot of used book readers don't even notice.

Genie

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 8:19 PM ET
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It could also be from if they kept it in a cold environment.  I keep all my books on tables in my garage and since its the arctic tundra outside my house right now some of the pages started to get wavy from the cold and had to be moved indoors so it might be from regular water or just from  being cold.

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 9:50 PM ET
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I just got some brand new books that have wavy pages. I think it's due to cheap paper or where they store the books before shipping. But they tend to be all through the pages. I think water damage looks like "chunks" of wavy pages.

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 10:33 PM ET
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I agree, some of the newer books wave easily with reading, I've had a couple that did that and I am positive I didn't get it wet.

 

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 10:39 PM ET
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I have some brand new ones on my TBR pile that are wavy. It makes me afraid to post them when I'm done.

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 11:41 AM ET
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There was a thread in the Paperback Swap questions forum a couple of days ago about this. The person had posted a pic of the book in question and just about everyone agreed that it was water damage. If that pic looks like your book you'll have your answer!

 

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 11:44 AM ET
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Water damaged paper also tends to have a different feel to it.  It seems almost kind of stiff...The cheap paper that gets wavy on its own doesn't have the same feel to it.

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 1:33 PM ET
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This is a hard one Michelle! When I'm iffy about the condition of a book I received, I usually just mark it received and add a polite note letting them know that the book had an issue that could have caused someone to mark it as RWP. Sometimes it's hard to make a decision with borderline books.

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 8:48 PM ET
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It's not so much stiff as it is really bumpy.  I would almost have rather had a flat out damaged book cuz then I'd know for sure!  :P  Still iffy about it.

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 11:58 PM ET
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The bumpy's are probably a good indication of water damage. I just accidently got a book wet and while it dried out ok, the after effect was that bumpy feel to the paper. It didn't so much as wave as bump a bit.

Add heat as to another reason for possible waves. The humidity here can cause the same thing on brand new book pages. Cheap paper is probably a good indicator of why that happens too in extreme weather. Funny how book prices keep going up, but paper quality goes waaaaaay down. Thank goodness for PBS!

BTW: If anyone has a book on my WL that has damage that's similar to what Michelle described, I'll still take it. As long as it's not moldy or stinky you can swap me a wavy-paged bumpy Plaidy any day!

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 10:20 AM ET
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I did mark it received with a problem.  I always hate doing that, I don't want people thinking I'm trying to scam them for a credit.  The book is Robin Maxwell's Mademoiselle Boleyn; may not get to reading it til April or so.