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Subject: Confused!
Date Posted: 6/17/2015 7:37 PM ET
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Why to would anyone bother to list a wish listed book ( on autn request) and then have it time out!!!

Seriously. Why bother posting. I am now back to # 1 after time out but the member can relist and keep me in limbo forever. Any way to block her?
 

Date Posted: 6/17/2015 7:56 PM ET
Member Since: 6/19/2008
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Maybe some kind of emergency?   

Date Posted: 6/17/2015 7:58 PM ET
Member Since: 8/25/2009
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Posted it by mistake?

Date Posted: 6/17/2015 10:33 PM ET
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I've had this..don't know why. Worse is when they accept it but the mail by date comes and goes...no communication either.
Date Posted: 6/18/2015 8:04 AM ET
Member Since: 6/30/2008
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I had a book time out once and the person finally sent me a message and said she had mislaid the book and couldn't find it.

Date Posted: 6/18/2015 10:26 AM ET
Member Since: 10/19/2006
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I  was offered a wish list book a couple of weeks ago. The member emailed me to ask if I wanted the other books in the series. I said yes, put the other books on my wish list on auto accept and then waited while they let the mail by date expire.

I figured something came up and they weren't able to mail but I'm number one on the wish list so I thought it would be posted again sooner or later by someone else.

Well, it was posted again immediately....by the same member. Now it's about to time out again. My fear is that they will repost it after the mail by date and it will be offered to me again and I will be stuck in the same loop.

Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 6/18/2015 11:11 AM ET
Member Since: 12/27/2005
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If they don't mail it this time, use the Contact Us link at the bottom of the page to send in a feedback message about the problem and mention that the same person has let the request timeout twice. They will suspend the other account until that person agrees to shape up and follow the rules.

Date Posted: 6/18/2015 11:33 PM ET
Member Since: 2/26/2013
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This has happened to me twice in the last six months, never before that.  frustrating the first time, irritating the second.

Date Posted: 6/18/2015 11:59 PM ET
Member Since: 8/20/2007
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"Why would anyone bother to list a wish listed book ( on auto request) and then have it time out!!!  Seriously. Why bother posting. ..."

I suspect there is a good chance the member had no idea that the book was wish-listed when posting it. Aside from that, it is puzzling why someone would post a book and then ignore an immediate request for it.

On the other hand remember it is always possible that some "life gets in the way" event happened and the sender was not able to respond before the request timed out.



Last Edited on: 6/19/15 12:00 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/20/2015 6:04 PM ET
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Sorry do not buy this. You are instantly aware during the listing process that it is a wish listed book. If you are unprepared to immediately accept wait to list until you are.

Date Posted: 6/20/2015 7:00 PM ET
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In my experience, this happens most often when a new member posts a bunch of wish list books and has no idea that they'll be requested right away.  They get overwhelmed, and just ignore everything. But Anne, I agree with Cathy, if it happens repeatedly, same sender, please let the Admin Team know by sending in feedback.

Date Posted: 6/21/2015 8:42 PM ET
Member Since: 12/28/2006
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Life happens, and sometimes unexpected events, accidents, etc.  If it happens a second time...I'd be tempted to notify PBS admin.

Date Posted: 6/23/2015 2:57 AM ET
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"You are instantly aware during the listing process that it is a wish listed book. If you are unprepared to immediately accept wait to list until you are."

I don't list WL books often, so please correct me if I am wrong, but I do not believe we are instantly made aware during the listing process that a book is wish-listed, nor that it is on auto-request.

If a WL is not on auto-request, it will show as a Wish List Hold on one's My Account page immediately after posting but the member would not know this without checking their My Account page either before logging out or the next time they log in. I am often surprised when I see books I have posted on Wish List Hold.

If a WL book is on auto-request, the only way a poster might be able to guess this would be if they immediately receive a request for it. If the member logs out right after posting a WL book without checking their My Account page they would not know either that it was wish-listed or on auto-request. They would only be able to guess this if they receive an email from the system shortly after posting.

Neither of these situations is reason for letting a request time out. I am only saying that a poster may not necessarily know a book they  posted was wish-listed or on auto-request and may simply see the request as any other, non-WL transaction. The system allows five days to respond to requests regardless of WL status and senders do need to abide by the rule, but there is no requirement for a sender to respond immediately to a WL offer, even if auto-requested. And, after accepting a request, the sender still has an additional five days before being required to mail.

Unlike requestors, senders do not necessarily see an urgency in mailing a book immediately as long as they follow the five-day rules, regardless of WL or auto-request status. Senders do need to respond to requests and not let them time out, but they are not required to do anything immediately.



Last Edited on: 6/27/15 12:42 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 6/23/2015 9:11 AM ET
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If you post from your TBR pile or your Bookshelf's on hold list, then you are aware it's a wish listed book. If you post by typing in the ISBN, then you wouldn't know it's a WL book until you immediately get a request or it goes on WL hold on your My Account page.

What does happen is that sometimes you post a book you know is a WL book and the first offer is not accepted, so it rolls through two or more people and the sender doesn't actually get the request until 5 or 6 days after posting.

Another scenario is posting multiple books at a time and planning to make a single trip to the PO. You might want to wait and accept all the requests close together, selecting the farthest mailing date to allow for the one or two straggler requests to come in before you go mail your packages.

Date Posted: 6/24/2015 4:00 PM ET
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I disagree. Once posted it will show in my account. If you are posting, look at your account before closing out.

Mary Anne



Last Edited on: 6/24/15 4:02 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/24/2015 6:31 PM ET
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"You are instantly aware during the listing process that it is a wish listed book. If you are unprepared to immediately accept wait to list until you are."

If you look at my account page subsequent to posting you are instantly aware.

Date Posted: 6/25/2015 12:26 AM ET
Member Since: 5/7/2009
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This is exactly why I never post anything from the Post Books tab.  I put the ISBN in the search box first, pull up the book and post it from there.  I see how many copies are available and I see if it is a wishlisted book.

Date Posted: 6/25/2015 10:28 AM ET
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My experience here has been that it does very little good to try to critique the performance of other member of the site. What standards there are here are very broad and loose. You just cannot expect people here to perform according to your expectations.

Date Posted: 6/26/2015 2:23 AM ET
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"I disagree. Once posted it will show in my account. If you are posting, look at your account before closing out."

      Not all members will do this. You might want them to look at their account before logging out, but there is no requirement to do so.

"If you look at my account page subsequent to posting you are instantly aware."

      Again, not all members make a practice of doing this and will log out without knowing a book they posted is wish listed.

"My experience here has been that it does very little good to try to critique the performance of other member of the site. What standards there are here are very broad and loose. You just cannot expect people here to perform according to your expectations."

      Yes.