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Subject: Do we contact PBS about...
Date Posted: 8/23/2008 10:29 AM ET
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a book that has an imcomplete ISBN & authors listed? The book 'Holidays Are Hell' has the wrong authors & incomplete ISBN assigned. If you look at the other book for the set 'Dates From Hell' you'll notice it has the same authors listed as the incorrect listing for the book I mentioned. Very frustrating for the people on the WL who will never get the book.

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 10:30 AM ET
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I bet it's a made up isbn and not an incomplete.

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 10:32 AM ET
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Why make up an ISBN? Anyone who had the book would have the correct number.

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 10:36 AM ET
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the created ISBNs come from using the Post a Book Without an ISBN option.  Ppl use this when no listings in the database match their book exactly.

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Date Posted: 8/23/2008 10:37 AM ET
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Whats the point of WL'ing a made up ISBN?

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 11:00 AM ET
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There really is no point because the 5digit PBS ISBN's are not supposed to be reused. I suppose if the person who ordered the book w/the ISBN reposts it using their TBR list it could come up.  I don't think a lot of people realize that they might never get reposted because it's a temporary number.

Sometimes with older books there is no ISBN in the system at all.  I think people will WL the 5 digit versions of these in hopes that someone will post it and they'll get the "other version"posted message.  Or just to remind themselves that they want that book. I have put those on my RL before so when I'm trolling UBS or Ebay, I can see if I can find it since it's not available on PBS.  I tend to go blank when I hit a book sale and forget what I was looking for.

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 11:01 AM ET
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There is none really. The Help Center says not to, but people do anyway. Alot of people just WL every copy show in the system without really looking to see what the ISBN.

eta - someone could have set it up to WL it prior to the book cover being released and didn't have correct info on the authors.



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Subject: I reuse them
Date Posted: 8/23/2008 11:37 AM ET
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if the data matches exactly -- a book with the same, title, author, binding, pages and copyright date is the same book to me. Why start a new number? If they really don't want them re-used, they should self-destruct, or at least a popup shoud appear when marked received to please delete the book.

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 7:17 PM ET
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Erin:  You can send information on a book that needs to be edited to a member  from the Member Directory with a "BD" (stands for book editing) listed in their profile  (The "BI" is for those members who add book images.)  These people are volunteers that do editing and image correction as time allows. If you don't want to blindly send them to someone, please feel free to send them to me...  There will be a PM box under my name on this post.  I will look into the one you listed above.

If there is a book that was published before ISBNs became the norm (in the 70s I think), or a book with a problem ISBN is posted, then the book must be listed on PBS as a non-ISBN book and gets a short "assigned" number.  It is a problem that these do not get deleted after they are used because the next person with the same book uses a new one and there can end up being a lot of them out there and some of these do accumulate members wish list.s.  I don't think they have found a way around this yet.  I know I try to add "same as ISBN xxxx" in my descriptions if I can identify so hopefully members will look further than just the one I have posted. 

I hope this helps some!  Regards, Mary

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 7:42 PM ET
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I found the non-ISBN listing of the book and compared it to the Amazon listing, and only one of the authors is incorrect (it's one of the authors from a different book in the series replacing one of the authors of "Holidays are Hell").  If nobody else has done so yet, I edited the data.

Date Posted: 8/23/2008 7:49 PM ET
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John you are not allowed to post a book w/no ISBN to one that looks just like it because they don't always match.  So it's best to just make it a no-no all around.  Otherwise you get people upset because they didn't want a bookclub edition (often a different size) but someone sent them one because they didn't check the ISBN or it had no ISBN and they just picked a hardback already in the system and called it good.  Or someone sends a paperback instead of a hardback because there was no paperback in the system. 

Date Posted: 8/24/2008 6:39 AM ET
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Erin - Some folk search for a book by title and place every version of it on their wish list if they really want it. I do this....and sometimes I don't think to check the isbn. That may be how the made up isbns get wish listed.



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