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Subject: Correct ISBN but completely different cover
Date Posted: 1/8/2010 1:02 PM ET
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I received a new book by an author from my Book Depository order (they ship quickly, BTW).  When I went to post it here, knowing that there's a large wish list for the book, I noticed that the cover PBS has for this book is completely different than the cover on the book I have in my possession.  I went to Amazon.com and looked up the cover, and it was the same as mine. 

I think this can be very confusing to the recipient if they see that the cover is different from the book they ordered from PBS.  That could end up with a RWAP and I don't want to have one on my record. 

Why would the cover be different and should I do anything about it?

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 1:08 PM ET
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That is very common to see a reissue with a different cover, they usually won't change the ISBN for an updated or alternative cover.

The Help Center clearly states that the book cover does not have to match so if someone ever RWAPs one, you just point out the Help Center and tell them they need to go change the RWAP it as marked in error.

If the book cover image on a listing matches the author and title but doesn't happen to match YOUR copy of the book that has that ISBN:

  • This image does not need to be replaced.
  • Cover images do NOT have to match the book being listed, because sometimes publishers reprint using the same ISBN but a different cover art.
  • ISBN, author, title and booktype must match when you Post a book; cover image does not have to match.
Subject: covers do not need to match
Date Posted: 1/8/2010 1:15 PM ET
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The cover does not need to match for your book to be postable.  You are right that the receiver might not like it, but PBS clearly says that the covers do not need to match.  Over time book covers often change while the ISBN remains the same.  I have had requestors question the covers before, but when I point out the PBS does not require the covers to match, they have  accepted that without further problem.  If someone is collecting a specific set of covers, they can set an RC about it, or I have also had members pm me when they've ordered to ask about the cover of the book. 

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 3:34 PM ET
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That is very common to see a reissue with a different cover, they usually won't change the ISBN for an updated or alternative cover.

That's what's weird about it, it isn't a reissue.  It's a new book.  Here's how PBS has it:

Street Game (GhostWalkers, Bk 8)

Here's what the cover really looks like:

Street Game (Amazon)

Oh well, the person requesting the book is really looking forward to getting it so I doubt that they will complain.  It's just weird that they have a different cover for a new book.  I haven't been able to find the book on any book site (other than Fantastic Fiction) with the cover PBS shows.  All the book buying sites have the cover shown at Amazon.com.

I wonder if it's worth notifying the PBS team about it to do away with any future confusion.


Amy
Date Posted: 1/8/2010 3:46 PM ET
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No matter if the person isn't happy with the cover and wants to complain.

Bottom line: according to PBS guidelines, the bookcover does not have to match the bookcover that is shown.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 3:50 PM ET
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The Book Depository is based in the UK.  They often have slightly different covers.  The cover is also often tweaked during last minute production, based on marketing.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 3:53 PM ET
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If they mark it RWAP just ask them to go into their transaction archive and mark it resolved once you explain it.

This happened to me (I marked the book RWAP because I thought they'd posted it under a different ISBN...and I didn't check, totally my fault) and once they explained it I markd it resolved so it wasn't going to be a bad mark on their account.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 3:59 PM ET
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The Book Depository is based in the UK.  They often have slightly different covers.  The cover is also often tweaked during last minute production, based on marketing.

Amazon and Barnes & Noble have the same cover I have.

About othe Book Depository - I was very pleased with how quickly the book got to me from the UK.  I think it was like five days from the day they let me know they had shipped it.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 4:00 PM ET
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That's what's weird about it, it isn't a reissue.  It's a new book.  Here's how PBS has it:

There are two covers, and two publishing dates and two ISBNs for this book, and Amazon has both listed. But looks like the one is the UK ISBN, ISBN and cover, and the other the US ISBN.

Amazon...

  • Paperback: 464 pages
  • Publisher: Piatkus Books
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0349400067
  • ISBN-13: 978-0349400068
  • http://www.amazon.com/Street-Game-GhostWalker/dp/0349400067/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262984079&sr=1-1
  •  

And Amazon...

  • Media: Paperback Book, 464 pages
  • Publisher: Jove (December 29, 2009)
  • ISBN-10: 0515147605
  • ISBN-13: 9780515147605
  • http://www.amazon.com/Street-Game-Ghostwalker-Christine-Feehan/dp/0515147605/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1262984182&sr=8-1

 

I think what's probably happened is that the cover has been added by hand here, and someone has uploaded the wrong cover image for the wrong ISBN number, not realizing that there's two seperate issues of the book out.

I'd let TPTB know about the seperate ISBN issues and the wrong cover art for one of them. Then they can sort it out.

Anissa (WVgrrl) - ,
Date Posted: 1/8/2010 4:03 PM ET
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The Book Depository is based in the UK.  They often have slightly different covers.  The cover is also often tweaked during last minute production, based on marketing.

Yep, the cover on PBS is the UK publisher's.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 4:22 PM ET
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You can upload cover pictures yourself.  It's very easy under Edit Book Data or just teh Upload Cover.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 5:34 PM ET
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Date Posted: 1/8/2010 6:30 PM ET
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TPTB probably won't do anything about the cover because they don't require it to match so they won't really care as long as it isn't for a completely wrong book. They don't do much with the images themselves, they leave that to the membership and the volunteer Image Team.

Since you have access to the book to see the correct cover and have apparently found that one on the net, I'd say try your hand a image submission and siumit an edit yourself.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 6:47 PM ET
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You can upload cover pictures yourself.  It's very easy under Edit Book Data or just teh Upload Cover.

Thanks for the tip.  I just uploaded the correct image.  Hopefully they will replace the image that is there to keep from people becoming confused.

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 6:51 PM ET
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Yep, the cover on PBS is the UK publisher's.

How interesting because the Book Depository's cover is the same one Amazon has.

Street Game

And I'll be darned if they don't have it on sale for $3.98.  I paid $5.99 for it.  Dang....  Oh well, at $5.99 with free shipping it was still cheaper than I could have gotten it elsewhere.

 

Date Posted: 1/9/2010 1:16 AM ET
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It is pointless to replace existing cover images unless they are actually incorrect (for the wrong book).

You are just making extra work for the Book Image approvers by replacing a perfectly good (correct book) image with another different one.

It is very common for the UK version of a book to have a different cover than the US version of a book. The Australian book will have a different cover from the first 2. Any cover image for the book that has the correct title and author is a good image. Yes, it is nice to have the correct edition's image, but since one ISBN can have multiple cover designs published for it, you are usually just replacing an image that is correct for some people but not for you with one that is correct for you but not for other people with the book. Waste of time.

If there are books on your shelf that don't have cover images with them, on the other hand ...... those are great ones to do some research on and go find the cover image and upload it.