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Subject: Cozy book discussion: Murder On Monday
Date Posted: 5/16/2013 6:42 PM ET
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Anyone ready to go? If you're not ready just jump in whenever. Don't be afraid to answer an older question. Remember there are no right answers, we all have different impressions and it's ok to have a different opinion. I don't want anyone to feel intimidated or overwhelmed, which can happen in book groups. I thi9nk we'll let questions run for a few days since not everyone logs in every day.

 

I couldn't find any specific questions for this book but I found a general mystery question guide and if anyone else has any questions feel free to post them. Let's just start with your general overview of the book and see if anyone is playing :). Did you like the book, would you continue with the series?

Date Posted: 5/16/2013 9:33 PM ET
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I thought it was so typically British in style and pacing.  I am not sure about the slow pace.  It was all too easy to figure out what was going on, a long time before Lois did.   I am going to give the series one more go and read the second book Terror on Tuesday.

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Date Posted: 5/17/2013 1:01 AM ET
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I thought it was really slow too, if they edited out about half of it it would have been a much beter book. Too much daily druggery stuff. The last part picked up and went pretty well but a lot of it was boring. I don't know if I will continue. I have a feeling that Lois may join the police department and if she does there may be more actual detecting in the future books. I don't need to know any more about the routines of cleaning ladies. I came across an e-book by the author but not of the series and I downloaded it but we'll see if I get around to reading it, lol.

I don't know about the style and pacing but shortly after I started it I had to look at the author's bio in the back to see if she was British. The language and sentence structure was not British. She threw in a word here and there, like gel (which is more Scottish), but it didn't sound British to me at all. I spend a few hours of most days watching British tv, so much so that I often think with an accent, and I wasn't feeling it at all. Maybe the editor touched it up for the American release.

Date Posted: 5/17/2013 7:57 AM ET
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I just noticed a lot of British idioms and phrases, that is what struck me.  Plus the slower pace.   Ann Purser is British or at least she lives there and has for a long time - bio.  I watch a lot of BBC America too, and we have a bunch of friends from England. 

I totally agree about the daily druggery stuff, that was boring.

Date Posted: 5/17/2013 11:09 PM ET
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Sorry - I haven't started the book yet but hopefully can do so this weekend.  The date slipped up on me even though I have had the book a couple of weeks.

Date Posted: 5/18/2013 11:22 AM ET
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It is a pretty quick read, hope more will join in.

Date Posted: 5/18/2013 4:31 PM ET
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I'm not really sure how I feel about this book. I finished it a few weeks ago, but I did kind of have to slog through quite a bit of it. 

I liked Lois when the book first started out. Her cocky attitude had me laughing. As the book progressed, I started to change my opinion of Lois a bit. She started to do some really dumb things, and I have no idea how both her and her husband could have let things get to that point with their daughter. (Who, btw, is a royal brat who needs a good smack!) 

I agree that the book was very slow in parts, and I think some of it should have been edited out.

I also had a really hard time connecting with any of the characters, outside of my initial reaction to Lois, which faded as she began to become a bit TSTL for me. I thought most of the characters were just downright creepy. Derek deserves a good smack too. I couldn't believe how he had such a "just get over it" attitude towards Lois. Ugh.

The ending was also rather creepy for me. I have no idea why they would want that house. I would be too weirded out by all that had happened. They seemed to just shrug and skip away. It felt really odd to me.

I have all the books in the series up until Tragedy at Two, but I'm not sure if I'll read them all. I might read the second one like Carole, just to see. Hopefully they improve.

 

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Date Posted: 5/18/2013 9:37 PM ET
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I thought buying the house was weird too. Why all of a sudden do they even have the money to afford it? If she would have left it ended right before the house thing it would have been much better.

Date Posted: 5/19/2013 9:22 AM ET
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I totally agree, buying the house was just creepy.

Date Posted: 5/19/2013 6:05 PM ET
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The whole thing with every guy in town having "been with" the murder victim at some point, and others were clueless about it? In a village of that size? I find that to be rather unbelievable. Especially when Lois stated over and over how easy it would be to obtain the "dirt" on everybody she suspected. She must have been totally clueless up to that point then...

Also- the thing with her husband's infidelity was brushed too easily under the rug, in my opinion. I actually yelled at the book.



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Date Posted: 5/19/2013 10:29 PM ET
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They didn't really give a good time frame (or I missed it) but I assumed the infidelity happened quite awhile ago, I figured that's why it wasn't as big of a deal, but it seemed Lois made him suffer pretty good. But it was a pretty big reach into coincidenceville, definitely an unnecessary plot point. It goes in the same column as buying the doctor's house, the "WTF?" column, lol. 

 

The whole thing with every guy in town having "been with" the murder victim at some point, and others were clueless about it? In a village of that size?

Good point. And she was a fairly well off person, that's a lot of tricks. Why didn't anyone notice the traffic of men in and out of there?



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Date Posted: 5/20/2013 9:37 AM ET
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Time for a new question.

How effective is the author's use of plot twists and red herrings? Were you able to predict certain things before they happened, or did the author keep you guessing until the end of the story?

Date Posted: 5/20/2013 5:49 PM ET
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That was one of the problems I had with the story, there just weren't any real red herrings.  Even the creosote wasn't a good one because she wasn't killed at home.  Instead of developing an interesting person to make us think was the culprit, she just went into mundane daily work stuff, boring.

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Date Posted: 5/20/2013 9:44 PM ET
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I agree, she could have made the men seem suspicious as she unveiled that each new one that had a connection to the victim but she more defended them as she named them. They were all viable suspects but I never thought any one of them was guilty. And as soon as it was apparent who the kid really was it was obvious. Making it one of the men for some crazy reason no one knew about would have been a better mystery.



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Date Posted: 5/23/2013 5:20 PM ET
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Sorry I have been gone guys, my spinal surgery was yesterday.   Back when I am better.

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Date Posted: 5/24/2013 1:03 PM ET
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I sent out some pms to those who said they were going to join buit haven't yet. I'll wait until tomorrow or maybe Monday to see if anyone else shows up before posting another question. If anyone else has a question feel free to post it.

Date Posted: 5/24/2013 6:32 PM ET
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So sorry you all.  I've been on vacation and I neglected to bring the book with me.  I can start reading the book tomorrow when I get home, but don't hold up the discussion waiting for me.  I'll chime in later.  

Date Posted: 5/25/2013 8:35 AM ET
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I just finished.  I was looking forward to this series but I found it slow!  The characters and plot did not draw me in.  I could see there was a baby involved but never put that together with Melvyn!  I might try the next one but not right away. 

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Date Posted: 5/28/2013 11:51 PM ET
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How about a question?

 

Would you recommend this work to a non mystery/thriller fan simply on the basis of its literary merit?

Date Posted: 5/31/2013 2:00 PM ET
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Just checking in, where is everybody????

Would I recommend this book?  Actually, no.  Not to a mystery or non-mystery fan.   I think I will read one more and if it is the same slow pace, I'll be trading off the others unread.

Date Posted: 5/31/2013 3:14 PM ET
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I'm going to have to throw in the towel early on this book.  I just could not get into it.  I've got too many books on the old pile to waste time reading this one.   Sorry I could not add to the discussion.   sad

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Date Posted: 5/31/2013 7:59 PM ET
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That's ok Kathy, the book wasn't very good and I don't think you're the only one who skipped it. We should just hang this one up early.

 

Should we try for another one?

Date Posted: 5/31/2013 8:11 PM ET
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I would be up for trying another book.  I do like the idea of picking a first in a series.  I'm really happy that we read the first Domestic Diva book.  I finished The Diva Takes the Cake and really enjoyed it.  This is a series I will keep up with and if not for this group, I never would have picked up the first one.  

Date Posted: 6/1/2013 12:13 PM ET
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I would not recommend this book.  I may try the 2nd but not until I read some others on my list.  I had been meaning to read this series so I am glad I accomplished that!