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Subject: Do you get DC when shipping?
Date Posted: 3/30/2010 1:59 PM ET
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I'm about to send out 5 books (my first round here) and was wondering what the norm was - do you always get DC when shipping? If not, have you ever had an issue?

I'm a member of another site and when we buy/sell things there we always get DC because there are a lot of unhonest people, unfortunately. The items are also of much greater value, so it makes sense. But since these are just paperbacks and the media mail makes them super cheap to ship, I was just wondering if DC was necessary/recommended or not.

Thanks for your opinions/advice!

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 2:09 PM ET
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I've never once used DC (sent out 63 requests) and never had a problem. I think people here are more honest than dishonest.

Shelly -
Date Posted: 3/30/2010 2:14 PM ET
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This really depends on the person. I always do. Just because I like getting my credit quickly. I don't have to stress about if it's going to get there or if the person is going to mark it right when it first hits their hand. I send it, I forget it. I also like 'supporting' PBS with the few extra cents for this feature. Maybe it will help keep from us having to pay a membership fee. On the other hand, people will say that it's alot of extra money and after so many you could buy a new book for the one that MAY go lost.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 2:14 PM ET
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I always get DC when I'm mailing to APOs, HI, PR, GU, and AK.  I often get it when I'm sending more than one book.  But for a single book, I rarely bother. 

That said, one book did take over 4 months to reach me.  And several have gone lost.  When I first joined, I'd watch for each book, checking the mail and the DC each day.   Now, after more than one year, I'm much calmer.  The books will get here when they do.  Media mail moves slow. 

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 2:14 PM ET
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I only use it on game books where it's required, multi-book orders and if I'm using the printed postage because I don't feel like going to the post office and mybook is over 13oz. 

To use it just for the credit guarantee doesn't make financial sense.  It costs .46 to get the DC from PBS which is the ony way to guarantee the credit.  That's $4.60 every 10 books or $46 for every 100 books.  You can buy a lot of credits and books for $46 on the off chance one goes lost. 

I've only had 1 book go lost in the over 500 books I've sent. Probably more like 1,000 between another trading site, game books and Box of Books. 

Yes the fee helps to support PBS but there are other ways to help support them that don't cost as much. 

The printed postage on PBS is awesome if you just don't have time to go the post office. I do so I don't use it much.  But I lvoed it when I ran a home daycare and the PO had a drive up blue  box.



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KAH
Date Posted: 3/30/2010 2:24 PM ET
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I use it all the time because I print postage from Paypal and it's included (you can't print w/o it).  It does cost a little more, but it's so much more convenient for me to just have the books picked up from my mailbox, rather than drive all the way to the PO when I have something to mail.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 3:11 PM ET
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I started out using it for all books, but when I realize dhow many books I would be sending out, I stopped.

I now only use it on multi-book orders. Or games.

I've mailed out more than 600 books and haven't had a problem yet with books being received.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 4:08 PM ET
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I only use it on multi-book requests and to apartments and that's just for my peace of mind.

I started out using it on every book, but it would have been cheaper to buy 10 credits from PBS to cover any lost books.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 4:12 PM ET
Member Since: 8/18/2005
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I sometimes use USPS DC on large boxes, but don't use it from here.

I've sent 832 books out since I joined, 1 still enroute, only 1 lost from me to the receiver during my whole membership.

If I'd spent DC on all the books I sent out, (27 cents for the site, 19 cents for the P.O. = .46 cents a book extra expense) then I'd have spent somewhere around $382.72 just in insurance in case of a lost book.

I figured out I'd have to lose one book out of every 7.5 books I'd break even on the service.

As it is, I've saved enough by not using PBS DC to replace a lot of lost books. Or buy new ones.

Rather have the new ones. ;) I'll take my chances on the rest.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 4:19 PM ET
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I have used paypal shipping which is really cheap for the DC compared to the post office DC costing 85 cents. If it wasnt for paypal I wouldnt buy dc.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 4:21 PM ET
Member Since: 3/27/2010
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Thanks for the replies everyone! That brings up another couple of questions -

1. If I did have a book never make it to the recipient, or they failed to mark it as recieved, what happens?

2. If I wanted to buy postage from the PO (heavy books needing extra packaging for ex.), could I still buy DC through PBS if I needed the credit asap? If so, how does that work with applying the postage on?

Thanks so much for all of the help!!

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 4:23 PM ET
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I will say that I don't think DC is necessary for the credit assurance. I've been here about four and a half years and sent over 1500 books and received almost as many. A great majority of those had no DC on them and arrived just fine where they were supposed to. There have been very very few books that didn't get marked received. Of course there are probably a few dishonest people here too (they're everywhere!) but PBS keeps an eye on people who have a large percentage of problem transactions and they have ways of dealing with those people. It just has literally not been a problem for me and I don't think the extra cost of the DC on every transaction is warranted for that reason.

That said, when my work schedule changed last year and I wasn't able to get to the PO to mail books except one day per week, I started using the PBS printable postage which includes DC with it. I do that because it allows me to drop any book into the blue box in front of my work, even if it's over 13 oz. So I do use DC on every book I send now, but it's strictly a convenience issue. I would have no qualms about not using it, except in special cases maybe--multiple book orders or orders going to AK or HI or somewhere it may take a long time to get to.

Cheryl



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Date Posted: 3/30/2010 4:26 PM ET
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If I did have a book never make it to the recipient, or they failed to mark it as recieved, what happens?

If a book goes lost, those people who sent without PBS DC will lose out on the credit. The receiver gets their credit back after the official 'lost' date.

If I wanted to buy postage from the PO (heavy books needing extra packaging for ex.), could I still buy DC through PBS if I needed the credit asap? If so, how does that work with applying the postage on?

I've never used it, so can't help you there.

 

Shelly -
Date Posted: 3/30/2010 5:32 PM ET
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If I wanted to buy postage from the PO (heavy books needing extra packaging for ex.), could I still buy DC through PBS if I needed the credit asap? If so, how does that work with applying the postage on?

Yep. This is what I do. There is an option when printing the wrapper just to have DC and not full postage. Then take it to the PO, they weigh it and scan the DC that will cost you .19 in addition to the postage. You need to have PBS money here to use it like that.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 5:45 PM ET
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I've only had a couple books that I've mailed go lost and I think only one that I ordered went lost.  I'm with those who purcase the PBS DC (but not printable postage) for books going really far distances (like to Alaska or across a large body of water, or for a package that contains several books, but don't believe it's cost effective to purchase it routinely.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 5:51 PM ET
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I've rarely used DC, only on a couple of occasions when someone ordered 3 or 4 books, and once when I sent a package to Puerto Rico. In three years, sending over 1,000 books, maybe three have gone lost.



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Date Posted: 3/30/2010 11:30 PM ET
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Welcome to PBS Kelly!!  As you can see, opinions vary regarding the use of DC when mailing.  So you will want to make the choice that best suits your personal needs.   As a newbie, I didn't use it.  Then a couple situations arose that I found frustrating, and now usually use DC for my own stress reduction.

"If I wanted to buy postage from the PO (heavy books needing extra packaging for ex.), could I still buy DC through PBS if I needed the credit asap? If so, how does that work with applying the postage on?"  

Like Shelly, this is how I mail also.  If you choose the electronic DC option when printing PBS labels, the system will charge you .27 each which goes to support this site and the costs of the tracking interface.  I then take my packages to the post office where clerks figure and apply postage, including the .19 each for USPS portion of the DC.  Together, they total .46 which is still cheaper than the .80 USPS charges for their green DC sticker.  As an added bonus, using PBS DC allows the system to transfer your credit automatically shortly after it's first USPS scan.  PBS cannot track USPS green DC stickers for site use.

Date Posted: 3/30/2010 11:43 PM ET
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I have now received >1000 books and sent out slightly >5600 of them.  I never use it.  I have had a total of 31 books get lost in the mail in both directions.  This is such a tiny percentage that DC isn't worth it, I think.  If you need the credit immediately, maybe it is for some, but economically otherwise it doesn't make sense (to me, at least.)

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 12:21 PM ET
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I DC all the books I send, mostly because I use PayPal shipping and they automatically include it for 19 cents.  I like DC because I think that someone will be less likely to say a book never arrived if DC shows it was.  Also, I find that the recipient likes it that I send them the DC number so they can track their book. 

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 12:33 PM ET
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Like Cheryl, I don't have time to go to the post office so I always use printable postage - either from PayPal or PBS - and DC comes automatically with those. 

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 1:06 PM ET
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Add me to the list of people who use PBS postage/DC because of the convenience.  I have one of those blue boxes right outside the office where I work, so I can just drop my books in there when I get to work.  I don't go by a post office everyday, so the additional fee is worth it to me. 

I'm not worried about people being dishonest--I mean really what purpose would it serve?  They might get a few free books but then their account would be closed.  I think that most people are honest and for those that want something for nothing--they'll probably find more efficient ways than PBS!!

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 2:23 PM ET
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PBS postage +DC is a necessary convenience for me.  I can't get out on my own so I have to depend on family members to mail out my books.  This way they can just drop it into any blue box.  I'm on a rural mail route and our mail carrier doesn't pick up outgoing mail.

Everyone's needs are different, and we do have choices thanks to PBS.

Ruth

Date Posted: 3/31/2010 4:12 PM ET
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I have used the site's postage since they introduced it. Its a convienence for me. I don't want to be bothered with constantly going to the post office or buying stamps. And an instant credit is nice. I don't look at it as costing more money . I look at it as a swap cost $3.00 each which is still a lot cheaper than buying new or going to a used book store. Also it makes bugeting for postage easy. At the first of the month I put $20 on my pbs account and if I run out of postage money before the end of the month, the account goes on hold until the beginning of the next month.



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Date Posted: 3/31/2010 4:31 PM ET
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I have mailed 622 books to PBS members  --I have never used DC-- No problems- only a couple books lost in the mail.

Date Posted: 4/1/2010 3:07 AM ET
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I'm new here too and Ive sent out 3 books, I used DC on all of them because I wanted my credits! That's really the only reason, people seem honest, I'm just impatient!

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