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Subject: Dara Joy
Date Posted: 2/1/2008 7:44 PM ET
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For the Dara Joy fans-she has updated her website  officialdarajoy.com and said that she has settled with Dorchester and will be publishing her Matrix books soon.

I know there was a fiasco with her selfpublished books but I did enjoy her Matrix books.  I also really liked Ritual of Proof and her High Energy/Intensity books.

Date Posted: 2/1/2008 8:07 PM ET
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I just loved her High Energy/Intensity books!!  Loved her characters and would love to see a third book into the series.

Date Posted: 2/1/2008 8:44 PM ET
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Thanks for that update.  I've got several by her in my TBR pile. 

Date Posted: 2/1/2008 8:50 PM ET
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I loved the Matrix books too.  The whole self-publishing thing put me off her so much that I got rid of all of her books.  It was kind of a fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me thing.  If she comes out with a follow up to the Matrix series, I might consider checking it out of the library to read. 

Date Posted: 2/1/2008 8:51 PM ET
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Yeah!!!  I enjoyed both the Matrix series and all of her other books.  Was very disappointed in the self published stuff.  Can't wait to see her back again.

Date Posted: 2/1/2008 11:50 PM ET
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Same here Laurie.  I might succumb to the temptation to get a future book by her here at PBS, but otherwise my money will stay in my pocket.  I fell for the whole deal once and that was more than enough.  I did finally get the last book after numerous emails from Cory (her husband, lover, son, manager, biker buddy, cover "model" who knows) (I've heard all of those theories as to his function in her life) explaining how they had mailed them out but no one got them, a great mystery somehow tied to Hurricane Katrina.  I was almost sorry I got it, it was so dreadful.

Date Posted: 2/2/2008 12:49 AM ET
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I liked Knight of a Trillion Stars.  That's the only one of hers I've read.  I have Mine to Take in the TBR pile. 

Date Posted: 2/2/2008 1:33 AM ET
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I was just reading the announcement about this at Dear Author.  (Sorry, I don't know how to do the link thingy)  The comments were really something.  Even Nora Roberts posted.  I too googled the word Dara Joy is using in the title of her new online offering.  Beware.  I may never get that image out of my head.  Major Ick.

Date Posted: 2/2/2008 1:37 AM ET
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what are the matrix books? i've never heard of this author.

Date Posted: 2/2/2008 4:24 AM ET
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Just can't get to sleep tonight.  For those of you who don't know what we are talking about I will tell you what little I know.  Dara Joy was a very hot author of sexy paranormals (the Matrix of Destiny series Knight of a Trillion Stars, Rejar, and Mine To Take are the ones I know)  and contemporaries (High Energy and High Intensity).  Sort of on the cutting edge of the paranormal craze, maybe you could say.  I loved her books and eagerly awaited the next ones in each series.  She had a very enthusiastic and loyal following.  Then she had a dispute with her publisher and both series came to a halt since they had to settle who had the rights to them.  This was 6, maybe 8  years ago.  Not sure.  Anyway she self-published a book that had nothing to do with either series.  It was a terrible book according to people I have heard talk about it.  Then she self-published a second book.  At $20+ a book.  That was when I had just discovered the wonderful world of online book buying.  I didn't know anything about the first book, I just thought Yeah, a Dara Joy book.  I bought one.  You prepaid.  Then you waited.  Almost two years later we were still waiting.  Emails to their website elicited no response at all.  More and more customers began to connect online and realize that they had no book and no response.  I guess Dara Joy and her webmaster Cory started getting more and more emails and I know I started getting emails from her webmaster Cory about how they had mailed the book but if I didn't get it they would send "another" but I needed to be patient.  Other people were getting the same emails.  Before that I got a bunch of emails about this problem with the printer or that problem with the printer.  I guess some people got emails about how the printer didn't have paper because of Hurricane Katrina.  (The woman lives in Massachusetts apparently, not New Orleans, so not sure how that worked)  I didn't get that email. 

     Anyway, finally a customer with a lawyer in the family started organizing people and gathering order info to submit to the Attorney General of Massachusetts.  The idea was that we had all been required to pay for first class postage and delivery confirmation, and the few squeaky wheels who had received a book got it media mail.  All the ones whose books had supposedly been "lost in the mail" couldn't track their books because no delivery confirmation number had been provided and there was no evidence that there had ever been a number.  So therefore, you had a possible case of mail fraud.  The people who banded together suddenly started to receive their books. 

    I don't think anyone knows if all the customers ever received their books.  I've never heard anyway.  I did get my book and it was awful.  So the whole thing made a lot of former loyal fans pretty angry because they felt they had been repeatedly lied to, and also that they might never have received a book at all if they hadn't given up on inquiries and complaints and threatened legal action.  So now she is offering this online novella or whatever as a "gift".  For only 4.50 or $4.95 or whatever it is.  And you don't pay and then download.  You pay and you get it later.  In a couple of days. or three. Or sometime. Maybe. 

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Date Posted: 2/2/2008 7:43 AM ET
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I definitely loved, LOVED the High Intensity books and the Matrix books and was so disappointed when she did that self-published crap.

Susan

Date Posted: 2/2/2008 8:35 AM ET
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I was one of the suckers who purchased the "self published trash" and had to go through the tons of emails and eventual Attorney General route.  I did get the book, read one chapter and couldn't go any further.    I have serious doubts that she even wrote that crap.

Now she is offering a New valentine "gift" (which will only cost you $4.50)   Death by Ploot Ploot - WTF?

 



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Date Posted: 2/2/2008 10:02 AM ET
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Thank you Bronwyn. I was wondering what this was all about. I post sometimes on videofitness.com (an exercise website/forum) and people have gotten up in arms there when a favorite instructor has new stuff coming out and takes pre-orders then delays. It would really sour me on an author if they did this to me. At least knowing it's paranormal explains why I'd never heard of her! I' ve just recently read anything paranormal at all. I appreciate you taking the time to type that explanation and for keepingit as ' neutral' as possible! :-)

Date Posted: 2/4/2008 7:14 PM ET
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I bought her ebook/novella.  I know stupid title but the story was enjoyable camp.  It really was close to her previous Matrix story voice.  It was nice to see Traed/ Rejar and the others.  I received it about 24 hours after buying it through paypal.  So this story really is legitimate IMHO.

Date Posted: 2/4/2008 10:22 PM ET
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Thanks for the explanation, Bronwyn.  I know that couldn't have been easy to type.  The only thing of Dara Joy's I've ever tried to read was Ritual of Proof, and unfortunately, I couldn't get past the second chapter.  Not that it wasn't good, it just didn't hook me.  I have always read really good reviews on her work though and had no idea about all of this other mess.  I assumed she was a really good author who wrote things that didn't necessarily appeal to me - until I saw that hideous self-published book cover on the Least Favorite Book Covers thread anyway:P

Date Posted: 2/4/2008 10:54 PM ET
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Kim, I hated Ritual Of Proof, though I loved her other early books.    Ritual Of Proof was a book that she sold to another publisher while she was in dispute with the publisher of the first books.  You might try her again.  I especially loved her contemporaries, High Energy and High Intensity.  I reread them from time to time.  They are funny and very sexy.  I still laugh when I read them.  And the Matrix of Destiny books, well, paranormals of all types are all over the place now, but when Dara Joy wrote those they were different and fun and creative and fresh.  To give credit where credit is due.  I think her disgruntled fans would have gone the distance with her if she had just been honest.  No one likes to feel that they were just fools taken in by a scam based on using people's loyalty and support.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 12:17 AM ET
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I had several of her books on my old list of books I was always on the lookout for whenver I went into the used bookstores, etc.  This was back before I joined PBS, probably a couple of years ago.  I found Ritual of Proof at a Book & Music Exchange and grabbed it, and when I didn't like it I stopped looking for the others.  Which makes me sorta sick in a way, because my friend who owned the bookstore & went out of business back in December had a bunch of her books.  I got all of my Lisa Cach books from her before she closed, and I remember seeing the High Energy & High Intensity books, Rejar, and a few others in her paranormal section at the time.  I never really buy those; all of the ones I have were given to me and I keep them thinking I'll read them someday...  Anyway, I may have to call my friend and ask her if she still has those books.  Probably not, but it can't hurt to ask, and I am sorta curious now:P

Totally sympathize with how her fans feel.  That had to hurt.  Not sure I could forgive & forget it either.

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 3:32 AM ET
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I ordered High Energy and High Intensity..see what she's like with those!

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 1:07 PM ET
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First I have to say:  I have never read Dara Joy, don't know if she is good or not.  What I do know is that while reading the postings over at Dear Author I laughed so hard I nearly peed my pants!

http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2008/02/01/dara-joy-has-some-chutzpah-says-new-books-forthcoming/

Thank you for the best laugh I have had in a long time!

BTW- You really don't want to know what ploot means, and I hope Dara Joy did't know when she chose her title!

Date Posted: 2/5/2008 1:57 PM ET
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OMG!  This is hilarious:

"

Oh. Dear. God.

Ploot ploot?

My thought, however harsh, is anyone who buys that deserves that.

Some are born plooted.
Some achieve plootdom
Some have ploot thrust upon them.
And some buy it for $4.50, plush shipping
."

 

Pffffft...  I blew coffee through my nose...



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