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Subject: Death: The Ultimate Nonconscious Experience.
Date Posted: 7/3/2009 1:44 AM ET
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Have you ever been asleep for 6-8 hours, woke up, and don't recall dreaming anything? I know you have. Well that, and all sleep, is a state of unconsciousness. duh

What if the experience of the afterlife is similar? And we'd never know it was going on.

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 9:12 AM ET
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Date Posted: 7/5/2009 11:46 PM ET
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The older I get the more I belive we just cease to exist.

It's much like before we were born. We have no consciousness of not being born yet. We simply do not exist. The same thing when we die. No spirits, no ghosts, no tunnel, certainly no stupid angels or demons. No judgement day. No rapture.

None of that crap.

Just back to dust.

The end.

I'd much rather be dust in the wind than trying to get a pass from the Holy Bouncer, Saint Peter.


Subject: I believe
Date Posted: 9/9/2009 8:19 PM ET
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Now. I did not always feel this way! Because of all my reading on near death experiences ( a lot of which come from children who could not have read anything about them.) that life does go on and you have a everlasting spirit.

Date Posted: 9/16/2009 12:44 AM ET
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I've had a couple of surgeries with general anesthesia. You totally and completely black out. I think that's what death is like. I think that people's "death experiences" are the brain shutting down and trying to make sense of what's going on. No disrespect to those who believe differently, just what I believe.

I also truly believe that it doesn't really matter what happens next, it's what we do now that matters.

Date Posted: 12/11/2009 1:16 PM ET
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Date Posted: 12/11/2009 1:46 PM ET
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Whenever I hear about a possibly glorious afterlife the two words that immediately pop into my head are "carrot" and "stick". 

Most people throughout history lived fairly difficult lives in poverty.  The promise of an afterlife is a really effective tool for keeping people from making a real concerted effort to make things better now, whilst alive.  I disagree with Marx on most things, but not that.  It also gives a feeling of hope to people who don't have a great deal to look forward to, which isn't necessesarily a bad thing, but it doesn't make it true either.

I don't trust the idea of an afterlife simply because it seems awfuly convenient in so many different ways.  It's also so human/earth centric - I mean, in some ways thinking this whole world/universe is set up as a redemption machine for the human race is awfully Mary Sue-ish.

Date Posted: 12/14/2009 6:02 AM ET
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If when we die, we are just in a black nothingness void than what is the purpose of all this?

Who says it has to have a purpose?

I don't believe in an after life and I don't not believe, if that makes any sense.  I don't think that I, this ego-self who calls herself Kari, will continue after death.  Frankly, I think that would be depressing, to be trapped in a single self for all eternity.  But on those moments that I can escape that egocentric view we all have, I realize that the part of me that I call Kari is not my whole self, that I am a part of an entire organism that is the whole planet, the whole universe, and that will go on, so in that sense "i" will continue to have "life" after death.  And I also have death in life.