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Subject: Drums of Autumn
Date Posted: 8/1/2011 9:42 PM ET
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I finally finished Drums of Autumn over the weekend.  It bothers me how her books seem to get slow in the middle, making me want to swear them off for awhile but then pick up so that you are sucked into wanting to read the next one.  Can anyone tell me how The Fiery Cross is?  Should I take a breather before I start another one?



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Date Posted: 8/2/2011 9:17 AM ET
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I recommend a breather.

I liked Fiery Cross a lot, largely because I was intrigued by pre-Revolution era deep South.  When we learn in history classes of the run-up of events that lead to the Revolution, it's usually focused on New England, NY, some VA.  Seeing it from the Carolinas was interesting.  But I agree with others that this is where the series starts going downhill.  More POV, more minor characters given too much screen time with subplots we don't care about.  It's well enough written that it keeps you reading, but the trends start here and grow in the next books.



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Date Posted: 8/2/2011 9:29 AM ET
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Sharla says it very well.  I read them all a few years ago coming to them after Outlander had been out for quite sometime. I devoured the books.   Then had to wait for the last two.  I skimmed through large parts of the last 3 books and didn't feel I missed anything at all.

Date Posted: 8/2/2011 10:15 AM ET
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Thanks, that was the feeling I was getting.  Too bad they can't all be as wonderful as Outlander!

Date Posted: 8/2/2011 10:25 AM ET
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The Fiery Cross was my least favorite out of the series.  I felt it slogged on and on.  It was a sruggle, but I made myself finish it.  I was really annoyed that it wasn't as good as the first 4 books.   In my mind, the 7 book series is divided into two groups, the first 4, and the last 3.  Book 5 was a chore.  Books 6 and 7 were certainly better than book 5, but no where near as good as 1-4.



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Date Posted: 8/3/2011 1:00 AM ET
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I just wish she'd give in and tell us about that "ghost of Jamie" scene from Outlander, instead of  "all will be explained ... eventually" devil

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 9:10 AM ET
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My least favorite was book 6.  Overall it is probably better than 5, but that's where the series lost its grip on me.  I reached a saturation point where I couldn't stay intensely engaged with the characters because the balance between horrible things happening to them and nice, happy things was too far tilted to the horrible.  In one moment, it just snapped.  I put the book down and didn't go back to it for several days.  Finished eventually. And with that intensity gone, it took me two or three times as long to read book 7, compared to devouring 1-5 in every spare, waking moment, and many in which I should have been sleeping. 

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 11:35 AM ET
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I hated book 7, it was my worst read for last year; so sad because I devoured the first 4.  Books 1, 2 and 3 are some of my all time h/f favorites.  I'm not sure I'll ever read another in this series unless the reviews are sterling.

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 11:58 AM ET
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It is kind of sad, I understand that she can only write so many great ones, but I was reading book 4 thinking I had more to enjoy, but it sounds like I may be done with the "good"  ones.

 

@ Elizabeth B - you mean the Jamies Ghost things still isn't answered???????  Have you read them all????  That has been keeping me going too!



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Date Posted: 8/3/2011 12:51 PM ET
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Nope, even through book 7 there is not an explanation to the Jamie ghost.

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 2:06 PM ET
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I just went on a few dozen boards looking for info on the ghost.  Aparently this will all be explained in the last book of the series.  God only knows when that will be I am intrigued to read the one she is planning about Jamie's parents.  But if she leaves us hanging with this next book I will never buy another one.  In fact I might just get the next one at the library just in case.  Needless to say Gabaldon really lost point with me on Echo.



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Date Posted: 8/3/2011 2:16 PM ET
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She lost me with Echo as well and it will be library only. I inhaled the first six books all at once, but I think taking a break before starting another is a good idea. It seems to happen with authors who get too big (Jean Auel anyone?) and they don't seem to think they need an editor, or the editors are afraid to say something, or whatever.

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 2:55 PM ET
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It is kind of sad, I understand that she can olny write so many great ones, but I was reading book 4 thinking I had more to enjoy, but it sounds like I may be done with the "good"  ones.

Yes, it is a bit sad.  I think there is more to enjoy, but that you will enjoy them more if you take a break and if you go into them with reduced expectations.  And also if you go into them with an attitude of "I'm going to sink into this book and sort of meander along with the characters for a while".   And if you expect that your interest may wain at some point and you might read another shorter book in between sections of the Outlander monster books.  Maybe it won't, but if it does, you won't be surprised by it, it may not hurt your enjoyment as much as it did mine.



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Date Posted: 8/3/2011 4:35 PM ET
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I liked, no loved, the series up through the 3rd title. I liked Drums and Fiery Cross, but I felt Gabaldon struggled somewhat to make the stories as long as they are. I'm on the fence about Breath. I finished it, but I'll probably never read it again. (I've read the previous 5 several times.) Then, I couldn't even finish the last one. I can't even remember the title. I just lost interest.

Imagine losing interest in Jamie Fraser. WTH is wrong with me!

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 4:56 PM ET
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I wonder if I have changed as a reader or if I was just so damned enamored of Jamie Fraser that I turned a blind eye to how much she really could have used a strong editor. I follow her blog and she really rambles on so much in any post that I barely read a sentence or two before I give up. Was she always that way?

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 6:15 PM ET
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Jamie and Claire just aren't in them as much. The whole revenge tangent in the last book the addition of so many characters, I want to get to know William   But honesty I am not that enamored of Lord John.  Ian budding romance is sweet. 

I have to agree with Cathy she needs a strong editor. 

Date Posted: 8/3/2011 6:38 PM ET
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I've only made it through the first two.

Subject: My Facebook status today
Date Posted: 8/3/2011 8:15 PM ET
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"I'm on page 1200 of a 1400 page book that she should have ended 300 pages ago. But I'll be darned if I give up now!" I just posted this on FB and then saw your post on here. I'm reading FC (and have been for what seems like years at this point lol). I have taken breaks between all of her books. She always loses me in the middle (like a pp said) and then sucks me back in. But this is my least favorite in the series so far.

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Date Posted: 8/3/2011 8:27 PM ET
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A big HF forum welcome to April!!

Date Posted: 8/6/2011 4:55 PM ET
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Jumped from Outlander to Echo.  After reading all of the above comments I'm wondering if I should take time to read any of the books between the two - all of which are still on my book shelf!  Yikes!!!!



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Date Posted: 8/6/2011 5:41 PM ET
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Ruth, Dragonfly in Amber and Voyager are every nearly as good as Outlander and Drums is too  I just think Fiery Cross and Breath of Snow on Ashes are the ones I remember the least.  They were the ones that had me thinking that DG's editor needed to be replaced.  My library has Echo that is a downloadable audio book. I just got it and am going to listen to it this week as it is about 40 hours long.   In fact my library has quite a few audio books that I can download to my computer and then either to my MP3 player.  

Date Posted: 8/7/2011 9:07 PM ET
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Has anyone ever read The outlandish companionI checked it out of the library while I was reading the 1st book and it was too much information at that time.  I may get back in line for it, it might be interesting to flip thru now.

Date Posted: 8/7/2011 10:07 PM ET
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Yes, I have it...back when I enjoyed reading these first 4 or 5 books and was looking forward to the next one it was lots of fun.