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Subject: Dust Jacket Question/Clarification
Date Posted: 3/22/2010 10:31 AM ET
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So, I am about to post a wish-listed book with a dust jacket. It has two tears. One is minor and the other is 1.5-2 inches. I know that if there is a dust jacket requestor condition, the dust jacket has to meet the same quality conditions as the cover. If there is no requestor condition, can I send the book out with the dust jacket as is, or do I need to remove it since it is ripped?

 

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Last Edited on: 3/22/10 10:37 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 3/22/2010 10:37 AM ET
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Ligytha, I am in the same predictment. I found a few hardcover books at a library sale this weekend. Their dustjackets are torn but the books are fine otherwise. I decided to post the books without their dustjackets as long as there is not an RC requiring one.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 10:37 AM ET
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Here is what the Help Center says about Dust Jackets...(bold my emphasis)...according to that I'd say include the dust jacket as it is not art of the condition of the book.

Dust Jacket:

  • The DUST JACKET (this is not the same as the cover of a book) does not have to be included with a book at all, unless the requestor had this in their Requestor Conditions. 
  • So DUST JACKET condition cannot be considered as part of the condition of a book, unless there were Requestor Conditions on the request specifying that the dust jacket be included.
  • If the Dust Jacket was to be included as specified in the Requestor Conditions on the request, the Dust Jacket must meet the same conditions as defined for the cover, below.
Date Posted: 3/22/2010 10:41 AM ET
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Dust jackets are not required on any books sent out unless there's an RC for them.

If there's no RC asking for them, I'd just send the DJ with the book. If the new owner doesn't want it, they can throw it away or worry about repairing it.

But you can send it without the DJ. I'd just make sure the book is otherwise postable. Sometimes DJ's hide stains and such underneath.

Some people don't read the rules and don't realize that DJ's aren't required, so if you do get a RWAP for the DJ, either it being torn or missing, I wouldn't worry about it, nor would I refund the credit. The site knows the rules, so if they see it in your files they'll know what the score is.

It's up to the requestor to RC for them if they want them.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 11:29 AM ET
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I personally would send the dust jacket and let the requestor decide if they want to keep it or not.  Personally I find them annoying and before PBS I used to toss the dust jacket in the recycling bin on the rare occassion that I bought a hardcover.  There is no need to PM them and ask about the dust jacket. If it's important to them then they need to have an RWP asking for one.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 12:13 PM ET
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I'd include the dust jacket and let the receiver decide.  Personally, I'd rather have the dust jacket--even torn rather than no dust jacket.  I have an RC requesting dust jackets, but usually only have that turned on for books I want for my "keeper" shelf.  I'll usually accept hard covers without dust jackets if it's a book I'm just interested in reading--but I do prefer to have the dust jacket--even if it has a tear or two.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 12:13 PM ET
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I would rather get a torn DJ than no DJ at all. If it were stained and nasty I wouldn't send it, but just torn send it along and let the receiver decide if they want it or not.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 2:27 PM ET
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I would prefer having the dust jacket as well. I even have an RC for them. But, Melanie, I'm just afraid they might RWAP the book even if they don't have an RC for it. Some of the dust jackets have pretty long tears on them. The books are fine except for the DJ. For the books that have the design of the DJ on their cover, I don't see a reason to send the DJ if it's torn, though. What do you think?

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 2:33 PM ET
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I agree, send the DJ and let the receiver decide if they wish to keep or discard.  But if this really concerns you Connie, go ahead and PM....the book meets postability guidelines, the DJ does not (torn & worn not dirty or disgusting).  Please respond before xx/xx if you do not wish me to include DJ.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 2:50 PM ET
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If they had no RC and RWP'd over a torn dust jacket then you would just point out the no DJ requird rule. PBS would have that on record and it would not count against you. So there is nothing to worry about.

If you do PM and they don't want it, then you will have to cancel since it's WL so they keep their place in line.  Then you'd have to find someone else to post it to because when you repost the book it'll offer it to the same person.  Which puts you in the same problem unlesss they took the time to put up an RC for dust jacket. 

If it were me-I'd keep the can of worms closed and jsut send the perfectly postable book. 

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 3:16 PM ET
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I think you're right, Mary. It sounds like a big mess and stress not needed. lol I'm just going to send my perfectly postable books with their torn DJs. Now, if they do have an RC requesting a DJ, what should I do? They might be fussy and want it as a keeper.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 3:24 PM ET
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If they have an RC that requests a DJ, then it must meet the same conditions as the cover. Meaning, that if yours is torn, it doesn't meet the RC and you have to decline it.

Date Posted: 3/22/2010 3:25 PM ET
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I'm one that has an RC for dust jacket. I require one but I haven't listed an "conditions" that I want the dust jacket to be in. 

I don't believe, since they're not required, that dust jackets have to meet any requirements unless someone has an RC.



Last Edited on: 3/22/10 3:26 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/22/2010 3:27 PM ET
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And I agree with Mary, just send the book.