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Subject: Edward Lee
Date Posted: 2/29/2008 12:48 PM ET
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I picked up the book House Infernal by Edward Lee at a used bookstore.   I have since come to find out that there are two other books, City Infernal and Infernal Angel, that come before this one.  I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this group of books.  Thanks! ~ Rebecca

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 3:01 PM ET
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I've liked a lot of Ed Lee that I've read (especially the gross-out stuff like Bighead, Creekers, and Ever Nat), but City Infernal just didn't do it for me. I thought it read like a YA novel and I just didn't much care for it.


I do have the second one on my TBR shelf just because I got it before I quit the Leisure horror club. I might read it someday, but I'm not rushing to do so.


Bob



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Date Posted: 2/29/2008 3:38 PM ET
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Bob ~ Thanks for your thoughts on Edward Lee.  Maybe I will read one of the other books you mentioned first before starting that other series of books.  I hate to read out of order, so I will hold on to House Infernal for a while.  Thanks again! ~ Rebecca

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 4:17 PM ET
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I enjoyed City Infernal a lot, it was a campy read, and have both of the others on my TBR pile and I plan to read it, but I'm trying to work through some wanted wish list books first.  I can agree with Bob that some of his more extreme works come off a little better, but Lee admits that he enjoys writing these books, and they are a little more accessible than Bighead, Creekers, etc.  You might try Monstrosity,  Flesh gothic, or the Messenger to start with Lee, they are readily available.  Be prepared though, as Lee likes to throw in gratuitous sex, gore, and sometimes thin plots.  I really like Lee, but he is no Greg Gifune, right Bob?

Date Posted: 2/29/2008 8:25 PM ET
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Steven ~ I think that I will take the advice of both you and Bob and read one of his other works first.  I'll look into the books you mentioned and also Greg Gifune - you have me curious.  Thanks for the warning about the gratuitous sex and gore.  Sounds like a fun read!  Enjoy your weekend! ~ Rebecca

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 1:08 AM ET
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I like Greg Gifune. Not so much Ed Lee. Ed's a bit of a gross-out artist, not terribly scary.

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 11:00 AM ET
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You guys got me curious about Greg Gifune, as well. I put Deep Night on my wish list. Was that a good choice for his first read?

Date Posted: 3/1/2008 8:28 PM ET
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I am presently reading one of  Edward Lees latest ones called Slither  - and it is typical Lee - lots of gore & sex, but think I'd like to try out those Infernal books also.   I have pretty much read most of his stuff except for those hard to get ones like The Bighead, Incubi & Succubi.  I did like Ghoul & Monstrosity, but found The Backwoods to be too much gore even for my taste & I usually like that kind of stuff.  There is one scene in that one that I feel is one of the most disturbingly sick & disgusting pages I've ever read in a horror book - and anyone who's read it is sure to know what I am talking about.

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 9:30 PM ET
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Deep Night is a good one, it's about 520 pages long, The Bleeding Season just came out, and I think it will be easier to find, you can get both at Amazon, or the link in my sig, but with The Bleeding Season, they are being pushed to actually get into chain stores.  The publisher is a specialty publisher, but they are branching out into TPBs, and The Bleeding Season was the first book in the line.  Gifune writes a very "literary" horror, with not all questions answered at the end, and a lot of food for thought.   Gifune's Dominion is coming out in paperback in a few months as well.

 

I read backwoods when it came out, and i don't recall the specific scene you mention, but if you want to talk about disturbing and sick, try Wrath James White.  Probably the easiest and least expensive one to find would be "A Book of 1000 Sins", a short story collection, and a lot of Wrath's stuff blows Lee out of the water (they have collaborated on "The Teratologist").  That is truly extreme stuff.

Date Posted: 3/2/2008 10:16 PM ET
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Well, I travelled 40 miles to a Barnes and Noble today and they did not have even one book by Gifune, not to mention 6 other authors. I put them on my wishlist.

Thanks for the review Steven.

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 11:51 AM ET
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Has this thread been hijacked?


Gifune is great! Deep Night was good, but The Bleeding Season was fantastic.

And thanks for reminding me about Domain, which awaits in my TBR pile. I think I'll move that one closer to the top.


Back to the topic at hand: Lee's Slither was fun and was a bit of a return to his gross-out days, but even with its large amounts of sex and gore it pales in comparison to the Bighead. But then, just about everything does.

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 12:42 PM ET
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I looked into Greg Gifune and thought that The Bleeding Season would be the first book I would want to read.  Sounds really good and both Steven and Bob recommend it.  (Thanks! )  Added it to my wishlist, but I may cave and by it on amazon. 

I think that Monstrosity with be my first choice for Lee.  I am going to check out the used bookstore on my way home and see if I can find anything else.  Thanks for all the comments! ~ Rebecca

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 4:30 PM ET
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Yes, I'm a hijacker, sorry!  :( 

B&N can order the Gifune books, BTW.

 

You can look at Lee and Gifune as food.  Gifune might be gourmet, or maybe just a high end steak, something to chew on, and Lee is fast food, not really good for you, but often quick and tasty.  And fun. Think (un)Happy Meals.  :)



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Date Posted: 3/4/2008 11:32 AM ET
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LOL. Sorry Rebecca.  I guess I am guilty of highjacking also.  This forum is usually very quiet so whenever I see a thread even a little bit lively, I'll jump in.  But I'm usually the thread killer also, so I wouldn't be surprized if there are no more posts here.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 12:24 PM ET
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***ANTI THREAD-KILLER****

 

 

It just seems  that the horror forum is picking up a bit more, other than the usual "What are you reading?"  and King/Koontz discussion. I think that that's a good thing.

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 1:17 PM ET
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I'll take any chance to learn about new authors so I didn't mind the hijacking at all.

I didn't see any Greg Gifune at the used book store yesterday but I did pick up Cuts by Richard Laymon and Triage by Ketchum/Laymon/Lee.

Any thoughts?

Rebecca

Date Posted: 3/4/2008 2:16 PM ET
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Dominion is Gifune's latest TPB to be released, I got the announcement today, and it should be available (to be ordered at the very least) in bookstores in a few weeks.

 

I have not read Cuts yet, and from a few reviews I have read, it sounds like it might be one of Laymon's lesser works, but I don't always believe reviewers ;) 

 

I read Triage a few years ago, and I am a fan of all three authors.  The three novellas were all written by supplying the author with the plot of  "a guy walks into a place of business and opens fire". I enjoyed the Laymon story, which while being a pretty straightforward tale, contains classic Laymon settings, ie gore, nudity, heaving breasts.  The Ketchum story deals with Stroup, a character that Ketchum had used when he was writing for mens magazines (like Cavalier) in the late 70s-early 80s.  Stroup is a bit mysogynistic, incredibly cynical, and not really likeable, but tends to strike a tone with people.  I didn't care much for this story, and it was a bit of a bummer.  The Ed Lee story was my favorite of the three.  Where he could have gone in the usual directions, he instead turned it into a horrific Sci-Fi story, set on a space ship in the future.  I would love if he explored this world a little more!

Date Posted: 3/6/2008 8:21 PM ET
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Thanks for your thoughts on those two books Steven.   I will probably read one of those next.  I am currently reading Ghoul by Brian Keene.  I am about halfway and so far it is reminding me a little of Richard Laymon's Beast House books.  Thanks for the info. ~ Rebecca

Date Posted: 3/7/2008 3:43 PM ET
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Ghoul was great, and I believe that Keene has said that this is a little Laymon inspired.  Laymon was very supportive of Keene as Keene was starting out as an author.

Date Posted: 3/9/2008 1:14 PM ET
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I enjoyed Ghoul also.  I pretty much love all of Keene's books with The Rising & City of the Dead as my favs.

Date Posted: 4/18/2008 6:44 PM ET
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Laymon, Lee, Keene, early Koontz and every so often King.  Responsible for more chills that an Arctic pool party.

Subject: Ed Lee
Date Posted: 4/20/2008 2:12 PM ET
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Flesh Gothic was my first one of his and I loved it!!!  I just finished Backwoods and now I'm reading Messenger. I had never heard of him until I joined PBS.  I have found lots of new authors since joining. I spend most of my time here in the horror forum. I haven't read anything by Keene yet but do have one on my TBR pile.

Christa:)

I WILL TAKE ANY WISHLIST BOOK IN ANY CONDITION AS LONG AS IT'S READABLE

Subject: Comment on "darkest evening of the year"
Date Posted: 4/21/2008 1:21 AM ET
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Hi all

    This comment is made by my wife, she just finished the book.

 

    "after a boring start regarding the dog rescue mission the lead character is involved in, too much emphasis hasbeen placed on the dogs, especially one in particular called Nickie". Towards the middleof the book  it appeared to pick up pace, only to be disappointed by the ending. As a fan of Koontz I found the ending disappointing and it is one of the worst book by Koontz I have ever read".

 

      I on the other hand am just about finished with "deep storm" by Lincoln Child. I have read oodles of books by him as well as in conjunction with Douglas Preston. Although not quite finished, it is a good read, and hopefully will be followed with a great ending.

 

                            peace and blessings all

 

                                                   bill

Date Posted: 4/22/2008 11:06 AM ET
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I LOVE the Beast House books, I wonder if I should check out Ghoul by Keene! ----    Off the subject, somebody told me there is a banned book list, never heard of this, is this true?

Date Posted: 4/24/2008 3:31 PM ET
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Loverm47, thank your wife for her opinion on that Koontz book.  I have found that through the years, his writing style does not do it for me anymore.  The first book I read was Phantoms and I was hooked but lately, his stories are long and drawn out and not scary at all.  I think he is writing more like King nowadays, too much detail and not enough spine tingling.  I guess that is why I have really started ready Ed Lee, Brian Keene, Bentley Little and J.F. Gonzalez.