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Subject: Eragon
Date Posted: 11/19/2008 7:52 AM ET
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I have not read Eragon, but I hear so many different takes on it that I really don't know what to think. I frequently hear the opinion that it is "very well written--for a 17 year old." people say that it is just a mish-mash of other fantasy novels, and that the plot is totally Star-Wars. But then I know some people who absolutely love it. What is your take???

 

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HML

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 11:19 AM ET
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Im on the 3rd book and have found that there are definitely points "borrowed" from various other series.  Its well written for his age though.

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 7:17 PM ET
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I couldn't make it through the first book.  I was just so bored, and after about 250 pages I wondered why I didn't just stop reading and end the torture.  So I stopped.

Date Posted: 11/19/2008 8:25 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/19/2008 9:51 PM ET
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I had a rough time getting into Eragon, but it got better as I went.  I read Eldest, and I just bougt Brisingr.  I

I didn't think it was too awful after I got into it.

Date Posted: 11/20/2008 8:00 AM ET
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Okay--so it's not outstanding, but not too bad either. Average. Thanks, everyone!

 

HML

Date Posted: 11/23/2008 9:11 PM ET
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I loved all three books and i'm so glad that he didn't stop at a trilogy, I'm impatiently awaiting the fourth book!

I guess you have to be into fantasy to read these. I'm a huge LOTR, Harry Potter, vampire, mythical monster fan. lol

Date Posted: 11/24/2008 3:03 PM ET
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Im currently slogging through the 3rd book.  It is definitely NOT a book that can't be put down (to me).  Part of the problem may be that its been awhile since book 2 but I just have not been able to get into it.

Date Posted: 11/26/2008 12:03 AM ET
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I guess you have to be into fantasy to read these.

I don't think that was the problem for those of us who didn't care for Eragon.  I'm definitely into fantasy, I just didn't think this was well written fantasy.

Date Posted: 11/26/2008 10:17 AM ET
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Im probably about 1/2 way thorugh Brisinger and just don't care anymore.  I don't really care if any of the characters live or die because the characterization just isn't there.  The story is dragging and not really going anywhere.  I will probably push through it...

Date Posted: 11/27/2008 8:37 PM ET
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It was average for me.  Not one of my favorites, but I might read it again someday if it comes around.

Date Posted: 12/1/2008 9:12 PM ET
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How funny, I just finished listening to this book on cd today. I thought it was ok. Not great, but not that bad either. However, I am not going to rush right out and find the other 2 just to read them. 

If anyone is thinking about listening to it, I thought the guy did a good job but not great. The voices of Saphira and Arya drove me crazy and a few times I think he forgot which voice he was supposed to be using. However, his voice was generally pleasant and he had a nice accent. When I listen to audiobooks, if the reader's voice doesn't grab me right away I stop them and just go get the book to read.

Date Posted: 12/2/2008 2:12 AM ET
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I think its like a mix between Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter. But I still like the books. I'm working on Brisinger right now. (Don't judge the book on the movie. The movie was horrible)

 

Cassandra

Date Posted: 12/3/2008 11:25 AM ET
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I don't think the problem with Eragon is that you have to be a fantasy lover to like it. I'm very much into fantasy, and even to me this book was just .... OK. It was written well for a seventeen year-old, but the main plot points seemed to be borrowed heavily  from Star Wars and LOTR. The monsters, the villain, even the hero and the anti-heroes all had similiar themes. It took me a month to finish Eragon, and then it took me two nights to finish Eldest. When I finally got my hands on Brisingr I couldn't drag myself through chapter 2 and finally gave in and lent it out to a friend. At this point, I don't really care about the characters anymore, or what's going to happen, because I only like a maximum of 2 and the rest bug me to no end.

In short, if you're a fan of YA fantasy, Eragon is a good choice, but I can reccommend a dozen YA books that might be better. If you like more complex fantasy with great characters and plot developement, well....

Date Posted: 12/3/2008 9:23 PM ET
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Yeah--I'm into fantasy (--I'm writing it!) but from what I hear, I don't think I'll read the Inheritance Trilogy. I prefer more original stories--and I don't like good dragons anyways. *laugh*

 

If, when my book is published, people say, "Yeah--it was good...for her age," I will feel that I have failed. Because I want my book to speak for itself, not have to lean on my own excuses. I want my book to be good--not "good for my age."

 

By the way, no offense meant at all to Christopher Paolini, or his fans. If you like it, that's wonderful! It just doesn't seem like my thing. :-) (And hey--they made a movie out of it. It can't be totally bad!)

I appreciate everyone's input.

 

HML

Date Posted: 12/5/2008 2:47 PM ET
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I know exactly how you feel, I'm writing a fantasy novel right now, myself, and I don't want to have to lean on age as a crutch, either. Especially if people enjoy it. It want it to be liked for what it is, and I want others to love my characters as much as I do!

Date Posted: 12/5/2008 9:54 PM ET
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Exactly!!!

 

HML

Date Posted: 1/11/2009 2:49 PM ET
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I noticed a lot of people mentioning that he borrowed a lot of stuff from other popular series - but if you're an avid high fantasy reader, you should already know that the majority of fantasy already does this!  Even if it's just with how they depict the elves and dwarves and other creatures - they tend to have certain common elements throughout most fantasy books.  But also as far as the plot - there are a TON of fantasy books that have really similar plots to the LOTR trilogy!  (And a lot of them do it MUCH better than Tokien, in my opinion...)

As far as the series goes, I remember really liking the first book, but it's been too long since I read it to really remember much about my reaction.  I'm halfway through the third right now, and it's okay, but not rivetting.  I'm kind of upset that he's writing a fourth - some authors just don't know when to stop (for instance, Robert Jordan...).

Date Posted: 1/11/2009 3:03 PM ET
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I think it's very hard to top Tolkien when it comes to things like elves - he is, after all, the father of mixed Fantasy. Halflings, dwarves, elves - etc all seem to sprout from his writing, so it's very hard not to "copy" the elements but when one thinks about it, no one can really copy Tolkien because his writing is one hundred percent original and to get even close to it you have to be a miraculous person indeed.

I do agree, however, a lot of Fantasy is similiar (very similiar) in elements and creatures - but that is how you can tell the difference between a good fantasy writer and a mediocre fantasy writer. A mediocre one will deliver it to you and the book will be "ok" or maybe even "good" but not something you will want to read over and over. A good fantasy writer will deliver the same plot you've read a hundred times, and still make it so interesting not only can you not put the book down, but you must read it more than once.

And I also agree with some writers just not knowing when to stop. Robert Jordan, Brian Jacques, and Laurell K. Hamilton fall into my list (even though I adore Laurell K. some of her books are stretching the plot a little too thin). Christopher Paolini should have stopped with the third book, as was his original intent.

Date Posted: 1/19/2009 3:39 PM ET
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My friend and I were just talking about these books recently. I was expressing my opinion as much as you have on here already... the character build isn't strong, it seems to borrow (although I really do think ALOT of fantasy does borrow from other books... really!), etc, etc. My friend, who loves the books (and does not like LOTR...) asked me how long it had been since I read Eldest before reading Brisingr (sp?)? And I said, well, I never went back to re-read Eragon and Eldest before diving in. He laughed. He thinks character dis-connect is common with people who don't go back and read the previous book(s) before diving into the newest. He compared it to going back to visit a friend you haven't talked to in almost two years. You know you once were totally thrilled and felt connected with them and you can remember the big reasons why... but the tiny things about their personalitiy (that really MADE their personality) have since been forgotten. And, since the author has left since a HUGE chunk of time inbetween books, we easily may have just forgotten some of the character build up. Does that make sense? It does to me, because I remember I loved Eragon, and I re-read it before I read Eldest (which is rare for me!) and I loved that too. But, I didn't want to read nearly 800 pages before diving into his newest book, so I just dove in... and yeah... turned out not to feel as great about it as I did the others.  Just thought I'd share that because it may be the case for someone else here too. Maybe we can partner up and go back and read them together. :)

Date Posted: 1/19/2009 3:45 PM ET
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Snapshot, I think you make a good point about the time lapse - I had forgotten a lot, and while the synopsis at the beginning summing up the previous books helped, it didn't tell you everything.

Date Posted: 1/19/2009 11:03 PM ET
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Jennifer W,

 I agree that elements are copied from all sorts of fantasy. Is there even truly such thing as an "original" idea? To me it isn't that he did copy, it is how he did it. (Of course, I'm not talking specifically about Paolini right now, as I haven't read the books!) I shy away from books about elves and halflings besides Tolkien, because it seems that people aren't taking the time to put together their own ideas.

 I have friends who are what I would call, "scribblers"--not serious about writing a work of fiction, just playing around and having fun. I can hear them discribe their storylines and say, "Okay, that's from LOTR, that's from Narnia, that's from Eragon..."

THAT is the sort of thing I don't like.

If you read the book, "100 Cupboards," you will see immediate similarities to The Chronicles of Narnia. But I really like it, because N. D. Wilson doesn't just take the same story and repackage it. Some of the ideas are the same, but he makes them fit together with his original ("original") plans.

Anyways. *Grin*