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Subject: need an ereader refresher and catch-up
Date Posted: 3/1/2013 4:12 AM ET
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ok I got a Sony 505? several years ago and used it off and on but never really caught on. a couple of years ago I got back on the ereader bandwagon and had a lot going on at the time so was off and on. I decided I wanted to cull a bunch of my paperbacks and go pretty  much straight ebooks to save space and be able to go to a larger print. I couldn't decide so ended up getting several though all were discounted pretty well being selling out and/or refurbished. I ended up with a Sony 350 (which I like for the small size and light weight) and Kindle fire and touch, and Nook color and touch. Now i have an ipad that I've been using a lot with the kindle app and more recently the nook app and I also put the Sony app on it. A couple of days ago my disorganized self managed to find the charger AND the Nook color so I charged the sucker up and was reading a book on it along with one on the ipad kindle app.

well I'm reading now in CMT that B&N Nook may go kaput?! How do I backup my books or would I need to back them up? I dont understand the talk here about jailbreaking an ereader and all that. I did see a link to update the kindle touch so it's like the paperwhite..I may get brave and give that a try instead of buying yet another ereader I dont understand blush I had hoped Sony would stay in the game but I only see 1 model listed on their website and haven't checked out their ebook store in over a year. I'm wondering if I should even keep buying ebooks if they're not 'safe'. I like to re-read books I like - some I re-read a lot. I do get a lot of the free ebooks for kindle but dont know if I'll ever get around to reading them.

so..do I need to figure out how to strip drm and all that to save my ebooks? is there a 'perfect' ereader I'm missing?! I think I'm doing pretty well doing the ereading vs actual books - was hard at first but I'm really happy with the font size being bigger and being able to adjust the brightness and bookmark pages though I notice on the kindle app I have to search my bookmarks - on the ereader itself it's always opened to the page I was on - on the app it doesn't.

also leaning towards getting memberships at the 2 out of state libraries with the big overdrive systems - the one in philadelphia and another I saw mentioned - want to check out the catalogs first and see. also does amazon prime allow to borrow from other people or is that feature available to anyone with a kindle? seems like prime members get a free borrow each month but not sure I'd use the other features enough to justify a membership.

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 6:35 AM ET
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Wow, Susanna, you have a lot of devices, you sound like me LOL.

Yes you probably should update your Kindle Touch. I love the "time to read" feature.

As far as perfect ereader, you should feel content that your Kindle Touch is pretty darn close.

Sony readers are great, be happy with your 350. Perhaps this fall they will debut a new model. Definitely don't buy another Sony until then.

Stripping DRM from books you bought and want to read again is definitely a good idea. It's not all that hard, if you use Calibre. 

Whether BN goes or stays in the game, you will still be able to read books on your Nooks. But I would strip those books, for sure.

No, Amazon Prime is not worth it just to get one book a month. Most of those books are only $3.99 anyway. I have Prime for the free shipping. We also use the Prime Instant Video on our Roku(s).

I use the Philly library and get Kindle books, it's pretty awesome. But do check the catalog first.

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 8:24 AM ET
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thanks Anne - how do I strip them? I used calibre a few years ago and wasn't successful with them all - at the time was buying and trying to put on my sony but not all worked

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 8:41 AM ET
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Here are the directions I have saved to help people:

First, do you have Calibre installed on your computer? Go ahead and update it to the newest version. And you need to have Kindle for PC on your computer, as well as any other store reader you use (B&N, Sony, ADE).
Go to this page:

http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/hello-world/

and download the tools.

2. Download the latest combined tools package, and unzip it. (Do not unzip the files inside)
3. Run calibre. Click Preferences. Do NOT click “Get plugins to enhance calibre”, that option is reserved for “official” calibre plugins. Instead select “Change calibre behavior” Then under Advanced click on Plugins. (looks like a puzzle piece)
4. Click on the large “Load plugin from File” button
5. Navigate to the tools folder unzipped in step 2
6. Open the “Calibre_Plugins” folder
7. Select one of the zip files in that folder
8. Click on Add (or the button may say “Open”)
9. Click on the “Yes” button in the warning dialog that appears. A Confirmation dialog appears that the plug-in has been installed.
10. Repeat steps 4 to 9 for every zip file in the Calibre_Plugins folder (five at present).

<<<11. You must now configure the plugins. Which plugins need configuring, and the information you need to enter depends on what kind of ebooks you have. If your ebooks don’t match the description at the start of any of the following items, ignore it and move on to the next.
To configure a plugin, you must find it in the list of plugins. All the DRM removal plugins are in the “File Type plugins” section of the Plugins section of the calibre prefereces. Click on the plugin in the list to select it, and then click on the Customize plugin button. In the dialog that then pops up, enter the required information, detailed below.
b. If you have Amazon Kindle ebooks that were downloaded to your Kindle, you must enter your Kindle’s serial number into the customisation field of the K4MobiDeDRM plugin. If you have already entered a PID there, add the Kindle serial number as well, separating it from the PID with a comma. Please note: all PIDs and Kindle Serial Numbers are **case-sensitive**.>>>>this may no longer be necessary, if you:
If you have Amazon Kindle ebooks that were downloaded to the copy of Kindle for Mac or Kindle for PC that was installed on this computer, you do not need to add anything extra into the customisation fields.
If you have ePub ebooks from Barnes and Noble (e.g. for nook), you must enter your name (NOT YOUR E_MAIL ADDRESS) and full credit card number into the customisation field of the Ignoble Epub DeDRM plugin. The name and credit card number should be the ones set as part of the Credit Card unlock code on your Nook Library page. Separate the name from the number with a comma and do not put any spaces in the card number or around the comma.
12. Now click on the Apply button, and then close the preferences.
To test it out, click Add Books in Calibre and go to your My Kindle Content folder on your computer, select a book and add it. After it's added to calibre, click on it. If it opens, you've done it!

 

 

Some notes-I have never bought a Sony book, or used the Sony reader software on a computer, so I have never tried to run them through Calibre to strip.

You must first download a Kindle or BN book to the reading app on the computer. Then load the book into Calibre (with the plugins above). With DRM epub library books, you must open them in the ADE reader, whatever that is called. (I do this with library books because I want to strip out publisher fonts/margins, delete excerpts, ads, images, which take up space and add unnessary pages--I do it with all books that I put on my ereaders).(I also put a space between paragraphs. So I convert everything. I am fussy!) 

 



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Date Posted: 3/1/2013 9:14 AM ET
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thanks! going to bed after night shift then will try this when I'm off work and can concentrate on it!

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 9:15 AM ET
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Good idea. Let me know if you need help.

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 1:32 PM ET
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I think what you're reading about BN - I had the same concern too until I dug a little deeper - is that the actual NOOK device may be what's up for discussion.  Because they cripple it by not giving it full access to apps and other things - like a true tablet such as the Nexus 7 or Galaxy Tab - it has not done as well sales wise, even though it has some fantastic features.  (I personally love my Nook tablet)  BN plans to stay in the CONTENT business, meaning you can still buy their ebooks, magazines, catalogs etc, even if the device itself goes away.  But even that is just talk at this point (the device).

Calibre is super easy to use and even if you have a dedicated reader such as a Sony, Kindle, Kobo, Nook etc - you should back up your library and strip the DRM.  You paid for it - in my opinion, it's yours no matter what these companies say. 

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 1:34 PM ET
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You must first download a Kindle or BN book to the reading app on the computer. Then load the book into Calibre (with the plugins above).

If you go to the BN website, there's a link that says "download" next to your purchased book.  You don't have to open it in the app first.  It downloads directly to your computer and then you can just load it into Calibre.

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 2:44 PM ET
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That's awesome, Sherri. I'll have to try that.

I liked the looks of the Nook HD but I wouldn't buy one because of the lock down. I didn't want to have to root it to use it. So I bought the kids a Fire and a Lenovo instead (Though really I wish I'd just bought a Nexus 7 for them to share).

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 7:14 PM ET
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That's why instead of updating my Nook Tablet to an HD, I went with a Nexus 7.  I couldn't be happier.  It is blazing fast and I can get all the reader apps (still use my Nook though for nook books) like Amazon, Kobo and others.  The only thing I don't like is not having the shelving system that the Nook does, but really, that's just a personal preference.

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 9:25 PM ET
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what's rooting? God I'm behind...never heard of Nexus either...

Date Posted: 3/1/2013 9:42 PM ET
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When we talk about rooting, we just mean getting into the root of the system. With Nooks, you can buy n2a cards (nook to android) which allow you to either boot into Nook, or boot into Android, thus turning it into a regular Android tablet. That was how I ran my kids' Nook Color. That's the easy way to get root access. Other ways of rooting are much more complicated.

The Nexus 7 is the tablet that Google released last summer. You can see it in the Google Play store.



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Date Posted: 3/2/2013 7:24 AM ET
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Some interesting and informative articles about using Calibre here. I have learned things I didn't know!

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 9:28 AM ET
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The only thing I don't like is not having the shelving system that the Nook does, but really, that's just a personal preference.

I love my Nexus 7. Only thing is I wish I had the 32 gig version or it had an SD card slot. I can fill up 16gig pretty fast, and I did. smiley

I got a program called "File Manager" that lets you access files and folders on the Nexus. I save my ebooks in folders in genres from Calibre, then I can open them in File Manager and it will ask what program I want to open the file in. It'll offer you all the options of programs you have loaded on your device. It does this with more than just epub files. Easy to find the ebook/vido/music I want and open them.

I've also got a really nice, snug, magnetic case that will turn it on and off just by opening the cover. Beautiful screen. Love it.

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 10:11 AM ET
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You make me want a Nexus! I love the auto on/off of the Fire HD and the Paperwhite. Makes me reluctant to ever buy another device without it!

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 11:38 AM ET
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I do the same as Sherri with my B&N ebooks.  Just download them to the computer and then add them to Calibre.  With Kindle books, I have to open them in Kindle4PC first and then I can  add them to Calibre.  Oh, and anything I puchase from Kobo I have to open in ADE so it downloads prior to putting it into Calibre.

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 12:09 PM ET
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My problem with BN books is, I can't get them at all. Like now, trying to get a free kids book. I click "download" and it brings up the sign in window. Sign in and nothing happens. Everytime. This has happened before. Go to my library, and it's not there. I give up, again lol

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 1:15 PM ET
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If I'm on my Nook, then there is a separate section for B&N books.  Very frustrating that the two sections do not sort together.   I have to go to the main menu, update, then go to the B&N half.

I probably should download them into Calibre.  Figure out how to remove the B&N DRM.   Back them up.  But I generally don't buy from B&N, just get freebies.  (One phrase, online customer service.)

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 6:57 PM ET
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My problem with BN books is, I can't get them at all. Like now, trying to get a free kids book. I click "download" and it brings up the sign in window. Sign in and nothing happens. Everytime. This has happened before. Go to my library, and it's not there. I give up, again lol

It asks you to sign in and you do.  You should then get a box that says basically "are you sure you want to buy this".  Are you getting that box?  If not, you're not buying the book, freebie or not.

Try signing in first and then purchasing.  But usually it works for me the other way.  You know it's funny - I've never had a problem with BN, ever.  Yet I hear so many who do.  I've always had fits with Amazon though, trying to make me pay for a freebie or downloading to the wrong device.

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 7:42 PM ET
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Correct, no box. It's probably just this computer. I don't think I have the BN reader software on it, maybe that's why it won't work.

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 8:11 PM ET
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Nope, it's BN.  I just read on their Twitter page that they were having download issues but it was now supposedly resolved.

Date Posted: 3/2/2013 9:20 PM ET
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I don't have any BN reader software installed on my computer and I have no problem downloading ebooks.  You can always try clearing out your cache and deleting your cookies.  Or try a different browser.

Date Posted: 3/3/2013 9:52 PM ET
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thanks for all the help and the pm's...will try some of it out!

Date Posted: 3/21/2013 1:21 PM ET
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This is probably a silly question but I just want to double-check... You can use Calibre to convert a Nook book into a file that can be used on a Kindle, correct? 

Date Posted: 3/21/2013 1:41 PM ET
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Yes, if you follow the steps outlined above to remove the DRM from the book, first.

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