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Subject: Estimate?
Date Posted: 7/4/2011 5:17 PM ET
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Does anyone see anything in the "Estimate" field on their WL besides "N/A"?  I don't know if this field is meaningless, or I've just picked books so unusual that they have no idea when I'll see them.

Date Posted: 7/4/2011 5:29 PM ET
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It depends on whether that title has been posted recently or often enough for the system to make a reasonable estimate. A lot of titles on my WL don't have one, but most of them are rather uncommon books.

Subject: example of estimate
Date Posted: 7/4/2011 11:00 PM ET
Member Since: 9/22/2010
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Evelyn,

Here is an example - off my WL - of an estimate for book that trades somewhat regularly.

Your position: 4 of 4 - Wishes granted last week: 1 - Estimate: 4 weeks

However, you will more often see

Your position: 4 of 4 - Wishes granted last week: 1 - Estimate: N/A

for books that do not trade regularly.

I have 140 different ISBNs on my WL -- many of them duplicates for the same book title -- and I have only about 3-4 that currently give estimates.

Date Posted: 7/5/2011 6:48 AM ET
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Same thing with me...there are only a handful of books on my WL popular enough to have an estimate. Personally I think this is one of the more useless features PBS has and I pay no attention to it whatsoever.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 7/5/2011 9:42 AM ET
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It is fairly useful only if it's a quite heavily traded book.

One book I've had on my list for a year. It has never been posted. Recently there have been a couple copies posted, and my estimate now says "18 weeks." This is not helpful - I'm #18, and two copies have been posted in the last year, so I'm truly unlikely to get the book in 18 weeks (or, honestly, at any time at all).

But if it's a more heavily posted book, so that it's fairly predictable that, say, 3-5 copies will be posted in an average week, then the estimate is actually fairly reliable, in my experience. I think this is helpful when you're number 150 on a wishlist! I've only had this happen a few times, but it has happened.

I do think that they could make the estimates more reliable if they took into account more than just the previous week or two of posting. I sometimes have books that don't move for a full year, then suddenly three copies are posted in a week or two. The estimate (if any appears) should then assume that about three books will be posted per year, not per week or per month.

Date Posted: 7/5/2011 3:50 PM ET
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When people receive books, if they choose to not have the book placed either on their bookshelf or their TBR pile, then the information for estimates is no longer available for the system for that trade. For some reason quite a few people do that (perhaps the book is a keeper for them). It also breaks the "chain" of where else that particular book has travelled. That's why sometimes when you know that a book has been posted several times in say the last month by watching your WL the system will still say "NA".

Date Posted: 7/5/2011 4:04 PM ET
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Sally, recently this was checked with TPTB and they denied it. We're not sure why NA shows when we know a book has been posted, but apparently that isn't the right explanation. Perhaps it is RWAPs or something? Or an error in the system? We're not sure.

Date Posted: 7/5/2011 4:47 PM ET
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I just got an old copy of a book I was on a wish list for for nearly a year. "The Man Who Never Was" by Montagu. So wishes do come true (even w/ a N/A)

Date Posted: 7/5/2011 4:58 PM ET
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Elizabeth, thanks for the info! At some point in the past -- like perhaps two years ago -- that was the explanation that TPTB gave.

Fara, I agree that wishes come true even with a N/A, I was just offered a book that had been on my WL since 2007 -- needless to say, I am thrilled. Patience paid off once again!

Date Posted: 7/5/2011 7:10 PM ET
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Sally , Patience may need its' own button in the forums.