Discussion Forums - Book Bazaar Book Bazaar

Topic: For everyone selling credits because of the new Membership Fee...

Club rule - Please, if you cannot be courteous and respectful, do not post in this forum.
  Unlock Forum posting with Annual Membership.
Subject: For everyone selling credits because of the new Membership Fee...
Date Posted: 2/2/2015 4:53 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
Posts: 15,186
Back To Top

If you just sold 9 credits at $2 each, you'd have the Standard Annual Membership Fee covered! (10 credits after the intro fee). Why sell more credits for less than that and let someone else benefit from your hard earned credits??? Sell a few credits to cover the Annual Fee and stick around and see how things go. You can always earn another 10 credits to cover next years fee!

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 5:29 PM ET
Member Since: 7/1/2007
Posts: 1,099
Back To Top

good point Melanie!

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 6:44 PM ET
Member Since: 9/21/2009
Posts: 1,170
Back To Top

ITA Melanie.  My first reaction was "I'm outta here".  But, I believe I'm staying...for just that reason.  In the long run, a year long membership is...what?  4-5 lattes' worth....

I DO have a ton of credits to sell, so I need to look at that.....

Jan

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 7:07 PM ET
Member Since: 11/14/2006
Posts: 2,552
Back To Top

except that, some people no longer request that many books.  I receive less than 25 books a year now.  AND, as others have said, my 50 credits were earned/trated/purchased/whatever, under the understanding that that was the total cost.  Not that I would then have to pa another 49 cents to use them.  Thus increasing the cost by that much.  Just like they did on the DVD site, but then they gave only about 1 week notice.  Credits rec'd before the middle of the month, should have been grandfathered.

So yeah, I will be selling credits.  Once the prices stops plummeting, becuase they are devalued so much.

 

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 8:01 PM ET
Member Since: 7/30/2008
Posts: 14,426
Back To Top

You can even ask a fellow member to gift you a membership for the credits.  6 credits for a limited membership, 10 credits for a standard membership.  That way you can use some of your credits and have a year to decide whether you want to stay/get books for the rest of your credits.  

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 8:41 PM ET
Member Since: 8/17/2005
Posts: 1,586
Back To Top

Hi Melanie, for me I GET hardly any wled books and rarely use the site I  do post and post in multiples many books so to buy a book or three which I mostly do , spend that cash then spend postage to mail them and getting packages to send them ,....then to pay in credits or fee now on top of it all...I CAN'T afford it. We are out of jobs and to trade with more cost to me I cannot do it. I am not mad times are hard but for me it's time to go. IA hope to sell my last 14 credits and go. Heck I needed Christmas money and had to sell credits to get by.

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 8:46 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
Posts: 15,186
Back To Top

AND, as others have said, my 50 credits were earned/trated/purchased/whatever, under the understanding that that was the total cost.  Not that I would then have to pa another 49 cents to use them.  Thus increasing the cost by that much.  Just like they did on the DVD site, but then they gave only about 1 week notice.  Credits rec'd before the middle of the month, should have been grandfathered.

I don't know why anyone would be under the assumption that their credits were being earned on a perpetually free site, the site has always had it in their Terms of Use that a Fee could be instituted at any time. A $12-$20 fee has now been instituted just as it has been said may happen. You are given the option of reducing that fee if you don't swap a lot by only paying 0.49 per request. (The site apparently is going to make members pay for use of the forums (and thus the sites resources) by becoming a member regardless of swap activity).

Do I like a membership fee? No. I do understand that the site needs to have revenue to run properly and I do agree that it shouldn't only be from those of us who chose to buy optional memberships like Gold Key or Box-o-Books or pay for the postage. Everyone who is using the site's resources will now have to help pay for them.

The point of this post isn't for the complaints about the existence of the Membership Fee. But to remind those that are selling off a large quantity of credits because they don't believe they can afford the fee that they can cover it with just selling a few now.

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 9:37 PM ET
Member Since: 8/6/2006
Posts: 592
Back To Top

How do you gift a membership?

 

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 9:56 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
Posts: 15,186
Back To Top

Marie, if you go to the Kiosk and select go shopping you should find a Membership Gift Certificate in there.

Standard

Limited



Last Edited on: 2/2/15 9:58 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/2/2015 10:11 PM ET
Member Since: 1/21/2015
Posts: 7
Back To Top

I'm new and confused. There is a fee now?

Date Posted: 2/2/2015 10:33 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
Posts: 15,186
Back To Top

Yes Sarah, you should have gotten an email in the last day or so. You can read about it in the Help Center if you can't find the email, do a search in the Help Center for "membership fee" and you will find the FAQs and other documents related to it.

Date Posted: 2/3/2015 2:14 AM ET
Member Since: 8/6/2006
Posts: 592
Back To Top

Thank you Melanie.

 

Date Posted: 2/3/2015 10:59 AM ET
Member Since: 1/27/2007
Posts: 426
Back To Top

Well I haven't been able to find a book I want off my wishlist in eons.  I got ONE book last year from my wishlist and it was one that I should have cancelled.  PBS does not have a good selection of the books I want.  I have had some books on my wishlist sitting at position 1 since I joined PBS several years ago.  Why should I stay?  I send out books, I get nothing back and I build up credits that I can't use.  I could on the other hand get $40 and buy 10 used books on amazon or 20 to 40 Kindle books that I want.  This is like bookins which I was paying for and they disappeared with over 100 credits of mine or like Titletrader that has nothing as well.  I would rather go back and spend all my time at bookmooch which has a better variety and I have some chance of actually getting the books I want.  I have 53 credits there.

Date Posted: 2/3/2015 12:48 PM ET
Member Since: 7/30/2008
Posts: 14,426
Back To Top

I have started a thread in the Book Bazaar for members who are willing to trade credits for gift memberships and members willing to buy them.  http://www.paperbackswap.com/Want-Buy-Gift-Membership-Return/topic/300293/?t=300293  I seeing this like the WL multiples page, as a clearing house to match up people.

Date Posted: 2/3/2015 1:45 PM ET
Member Since: 2/26/2009
Posts: 35,665
Back To Top

I may do that... but I hate that credits are valued for so little when it usually costs $3 to mail a single book.(especially in the games where edc is required)  I also hate that people get those credits from the sister sites and sell them here when they are spending closer to $2 to mail a dvd.  It brought the value of credits down so far that we can't even get an even recoup what we spend.

I also think that however many credits you have left on the 15th , you should be able to use after the 15th with no added fee since they were earned before the change was implemented.  Once those credits are gone, then it would be time to pay for a membership.  So aggravating that we are given so little notice.

Date Posted: 2/3/2015 2:26 PM ET
Member Since: 7/16/2006
Posts: 7
Back To Top

Yeah, I'm hoping to sell mine because I already recently paid to send off 50+ books. At $2.50+ AT LEAST, I'm looking at over $125 already spent.

Not to mention most of my wishlists aren't available and haven't ever, or won't be for a long time. Why pay $18 if I might not get but one or two books this year? I might as well just buy them myself. 

PLUS I'm also moving hopefully this year, and soon, and I got rid of books to have less to move and can't justify getting more in their place, even though I hardly get any wish list requests as it is.



Last Edited on: 2/3/15 2:27 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Subject: Question about the fee?
Date Posted: 2/3/2015 2:30 PM ET
Member Since: 9/10/2005
Posts: 8
Back To Top

Are they charging .49 cents if I would request a book AND someone else request from me another .49 cents? 

Date Posted: 2/3/2015 3:18 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
Posts: 15,186
Back To Top

Barb, the fee is assessed on the REQUESTER of a book, not on the sender and the 0.49 is only on members who chose not to buy an annual membership. You would not pay a swap fee when someone requests a book from you.

I see you have the flag for printed postage. Every time you use PBS full printed postage,  you will earn one Free Swap Fee (we will get a registry at the top of our screen just like the Credit and Money registries). You can use those on later requests in place on paying the 0.49 swap fee. So if you chose to not get an annual membership, but use printed postage a lot, you may still not need to pay that fee much if at all.

Subject: Reply to Melanie...
Date Posted: 2/3/2015 4:17 PM ET
Member Since: 9/10/2005
Posts: 8
Back To Top

Thanks for explaining that. 

Date Posted: 2/3/2015 6:56 PM ET
Member Since: 5/6/2005
Posts: 2,273
Back To Top

>>If you just sold 9 credits at $2 each, you'd have the Standard Annual Membership Fee covered!

If you paid $2 for the credits that idea is fine. But many people have been shipping books for $2.69 and more. So nine credits cost you $24 and you buy your membership with that so you basically just paid $24 for the membership. If you are sticking around just pay cash so you don't pay a premium unless you actually got he credits cheap.

Date Posted: 2/4/2015 1:41 PM ET
Member Since: 4/16/2008
Posts: 63
Back To Top


Last Edited on: 2/14/15 4:11 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 2/4/2015 6:04 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
Posts: 15,186
Back To Top

Heidi, the number of books going though the WL multiples is minute compared to what is swapped on the site. I don't think that is what has changed. There is likely a slow down to your WL because of e-readers, a lot of people are buying their new books on e-readers now. The high number of members also means a lot more people in the lines so that meant waiting longer. If (as I suspect may happem) many of the members that were only waiting in the WL lines and using the forums and not posting books are leaving now because they don't want to pay the membership fee, then the WL lines may start moving faster.

Date Posted: 2/4/2015 6:48 PM ET
Member Since: 8/6/2006
Posts: 592
Back To Top

Heidi I'm staying put but I agree with you. I wish they would end the wish-list multiple thread. It benefits the few to the detriment of the many. I know many people who agree.  I don't think e-readers has affected the wish list as much as the multiples thread. (Not looking for an argument) We all have our opinions but none of has facts. :)

 

Date Posted: 2/4/2015 8:47 PM ET
Member Since: 4/16/2008
Posts: 63
Back To Top


Last Edited on: 2/14/15 4:11 PM ET - Total times edited: 3