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Subject: First page missing, can I still send the book?
Date Posted: 1/27/2012 2:22 PM ET
Member Since: 1/8/2012
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I know the rules say not to send a book if it's missing pages, but the book I have has all of the text pages and stuff it's just missing the very first page(I think it was completely black). The title page is still there and everything. Thanks!(:
Date Posted: 1/27/2012 2:54 PM ET
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I got a book like that and RWAP because there was no way to know what might have been on that page.........a page ripped out, not good.

Date Posted: 1/27/2012 4:53 PM ET
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A missing flyleaf (that's what that first page is called) is acceptable as long as it's removed neatly. 

Here's a recent discussion.

http://www.paperbackswap.com/Ripped-Out-Flyleaf-Page/topic/248582/

 

The rules are looser for non-text pages.  Generally, written on or missing is OK, but stains are always a NO.

Date Posted: 1/27/2012 5:00 PM ET
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The PBS rule says "no missing text pages".

Those initial pages in a book are not normally considered text pages, so are OK to be missing. (the blank pages, a teaser page with a book excerpt, the list of other books published by the author, book review pages, etc) .... none of those are text pages.

So, I think your book is postable, as long as you can clearly see that the missing page was not a text page.

Date Posted: 1/27/2012 5:29 PM ET
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The rules say "no missing text pages" so it should be ok. But you do risk the of a Problem mark like Toni because without the page there, there's no telling what was on the page. That doesn't say you'd have to give a credit back in the situation with the whole story there, but just so you realize it is a possibility.

Date Posted: 1/27/2012 5:41 PM ET
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Also, check to be sure the binding isn't compromised.  If the page wasn't removed correctly, or if it fell out, that could mean other pages are loose.

Date Posted: 1/27/2012 6:11 PM ET
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Many libraries remove that page when a book is withdrawn from the system and put up for sale and those are acceptable here. Members sometimes remove that page because it had their name/address on it or a written dedication. To me a text page means exactly that: a page that is part of the story, not a synopsis or info about the author -- in other words, the text of the book would be incomplete without that page. The flyleaf, the page you are describing, is not text.

Date Posted: 1/27/2012 8:43 PM ET
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Alright everybody thanks so much! I'm going to go check now and make sure that the ripped page hasn't loosened any other pages. Thank you!!
Date Posted: 1/28/2012 7:28 PM ET
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just to clarify my situation........page was very clearly ripped out.......no way to tell what was on that page........it was not the first page upon opening the book.