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Subject: Frustrated by RC
Date Posted: 12/9/2008 10:14 AM ET
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I try to follow all RCs and I do read each one. Sometimes I step back a moment (or two) and think on them before responding. What at first reading seems unreasonable can, after some thought, be reasonable.

Today I received an RC that asks that I wrap in plastic. Reasonable. I use plastic jiffy bags these days. But there is more. Please wrap in plastic even if mailing in a bubble envelope. Their reasoning is that any type of packaging can be ripped going thru USPS and will let liquids thru.

I brought the book to work to mail it. I don't keep plastic at my desk because I've been mailing in bubble wrappers lately. So now, I have to find some plastic. Guess it's not going out today.

I'm not saying their RC is unreasonable. It's stretching it a bit, but ok.

I'm just venting.

susan/vt

 

Date Posted: 12/9/2008 10:20 AM ET
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I generally do not wrap in plastic when I use bubble envelopes, partly because the plastic wrap I use does not want to slide against the inside bubble packaging and it means forcing the book in, and also because I consider the bubble envelopes to be sufficient protection.  Never had a reported problem with just using the bubble envelopes to date.

Date Posted: 12/9/2008 10:32 AM ET
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Dawn, I generally don't either but I will have to this time or decline to send the book because it is an RC.

susan/vt

Date Posted: 12/9/2008 10:44 AM ET
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Well, I've gotten a rain damaged book in a bubble mailer, so I always bag my books first before putting them in the mailer.  It was one of the bubble mailers with the manila envelope type exterior, and I have gotten a couple of wet poly bubble mailers with dry contents, so take it for whatever it's worth.

Date Posted: 12/9/2008 12:49 PM ET
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Susan,

This is completely, off-topic, but I love your Ridley!  For those of your not familiar with Ridleys, it is the motorcycle in her picure;)   I have a 2006 Auto Glide TT that is painted like yours but is light blue with white underneath and a white frame - you go , girl!! 

Take care,

Cindy

Date Posted: 12/9/2008 2:11 PM ET
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Cindy, I would really really really love that to be MY Ridley but it's not. It's one that I sat on at Americade a few years ago. I'm very much a girly girl and I just loved that it was pink. And that, look, both of my feet touch the ground and my knees are still bent. This bike was made for me. So why, oh why, isn't it in my garage?

susan/vt

Date Posted: 12/9/2008 5:10 PM ET
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I use bubble wrap envelopes and I used to tape across the back where it sealed making sure that I got the tops of the sides (edges) as it seemed that the envelope was somewhat open there.  I've since started cutting a small triangle off of each side of the flap and then sealing the envelope and it seems to seal those top edges that didn't seem to be sealed before. 

I too have the same problem as Dawn and Susan - if I use the bubble envelopes and wrap in plastic it's a struggle to get the book into the envelope. Pat

Date Posted: 12/9/2008 6:01 PM ET
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It might be that the wet book I received was just due to seepage from little open slits near the flaps.  I have no idea anymore because it's been so long since this happened and it hasn't happened since.  And I do get things from time to time in the same type of bubble mailers, and they're usually fine, especially if they're well taped.  I couldn't 100% sit here & swear that not using plastic inside a bubble mailer is the pathway to doom:P  It may never make a bit of difference at all, I just had this one instance of trouble, so I don't use them without a plastic covering on the books.  I know it's a tight fit for a lot of books.  On the other hand, I stopped using bubble mailers altogether several months ago because of the cost & any I use now are recycled.  There are other ways of insulating and preventing damage that don't cost nearly as much as bubble mailers.

Date Posted: 12/10/2008 8:32 AM ET
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Susan,

Maybe someday you WILL have a Ridley in your garage:)  I know the seat height made a huge difference in my level of confidence and last year was all about enjoying the ride rather than being nervous most of the time.  I can't see myself ever moving to a different bike - this one is a dream to ride...  

Love the picture regardless - you and that bike look made for each other;-)

Cindy

  

Subject: Wrap in Plastic
Date Posted: 12/10/2008 9:04 AM ET
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It's easy to get plastic--I save my newspaper wrapping & grocery bags.  Allie

Date Posted: 12/10/2008 12:19 PM ET
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Date Posted: 12/10/2008 5:19 PM ET
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I can get plastic, but I don't take the newspaper so no plastic bags there and I use those re-usable grocery bags so no plastic there. I had found a box of new bubble wrappers at a great price so I was using those. I wrapped it in plastic and then a regular manila envelope and then lots of tape. It should be safe in a monsoon or a nor'easter.

susan/vt

Date Posted: 12/10/2008 6:27 PM ET
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I just buy a roll of plastic wrap at the dollar store.  It lasts for a looooong time.

Date Posted: 12/10/2008 6:35 PM ET
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I got a book recently, it came in an envelope, and was wrapped in plastic.  The paper of the envelope was just fine, no tears of any kind but obviously roughly handled by MR Postman, when I took the book out the plastic at one edge had split, so if the package had gotten wet, the plastic would have been useless.

I know it was plastic wrap rather then a ziplock bag., looked like the corner of the PB had poked through.

Date Posted: 12/11/2008 9:14 AM ET
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Can one actually have an RC that contradicts PBS policy?  Wrapping in plastic is not a PBS requirement.  Does anyone know? 

Lauren

Date Posted: 12/11/2008 11:44 AM ET
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On yes ou can Lauren!  You can ask for dust covers and they are not required.   You can ask for a brand new book if you choose.   You can ask for anything you wish - doesn't mean you will get it - but you can put it in your RC's.

Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 12/11/2008 12:07 PM ET
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You can certainly have RCs that add to the PBS conditions, but I don't think you can have one that outright contradicts them. If you had an RC that said "Please only send me books with severely torn covers and water damage", I don't think you'd get too many takers.

Date Posted: 12/11/2008 12:15 PM ET
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Thanks Cathy and Cozette.

I didn't realize you could have RCs asking for things that are not required by PBS.  I rarely run into RCs myself and have actually taken my own out which basically just reiterated that I don't want damaged covers/damaged spines.  But so many had issues with my RC that I took them out and figured would take care of any issues on the RWAP end. 

Lauren