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Subject: Funniest RC rejections
Date Posted: 1/26/2010 3:40 PM ET
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I have decided to laugh.    People don't like my RCs (which add very little to the actual rules and aren't that long) and reject them for funny reasons that have nothing to do with what they actual state.   This is todays:

"Book is too heavy to take a chance."

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 3:48 PM ET
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What was your RC that made them come up with that rejection reason?

 

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 3:51 PM ET
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Kate, I imagine that what they meant was that it would cost them too much to chance mailing it:).  If I had a little book that would fit in an envelope that woulc be different then accepting a big hardcover $4 book to mail as far as a risky RC. 

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 3:53 PM ET
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I do not want books:

That don't meet the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS, come from smoking homes, smell musty or wet, have been taped back together, or look visibly dirty (a little dust, yellowing discoloration is fine, no gook).   Please verify book type matches (HB needs to be HB if ISBN matches PB).

Fiction: No x-library please

PM me if you think I might still be interested.   I check my email at least daily, usually more often.v

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:02 PM ET
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If that were the case they could have mentioned what about the book was risky.   Like "book might smell" or "book is somewhat dirty".   I just thought that they were being cheeky.   Just gives me a new funny for the day.

I have since then removed the "smell" part of my RCs since I have been reading that people find it intimidating.  The check format part is because I have recently received two PBs that were supposed to be HB and its an easy mistake to make and I thought it might help to remind people.  I may remove that and go back to asking for my credit back (which ticks people off because they think it isn't their fault).

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:10 PM ET
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Yes, I'm sure it's just that they don't want to pay a lot to send a big heavy book only to have the book marked RWAP. I would decline that RC just based on the fact that there are some subjective parts...asking me to "smell" a book to see if it "smells musty or wet" for example. I have a poor sense of smell, so what if I don't smell anything, but you do? What is "a little dust?"  What is "gook?"  I also refuse on principle any RC that asks me to PM the person to clarify or discuss further. If I can't tell what it is you want from the RC or am asked to make a subjective judgment about the book, I'm going to decline, period. But I promise I wouldn't list a 'funny' reason. :)

Cheryl

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:16 PM ET
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Edith, a little off topic I know, but could you specifically add an RC like "I only want HC books" for those books you only want HC of?  I have only sent out a few HCs and have never gotten a HC RC but if I had a PB and the ISBN matched and I had no reason to think it was supposed to be HC, I don't know how I'd feel about returning a credit either...

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:20 PM ET
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I really dislike it when someone asks me to PM them with questions if they do not include their screen name.  The system is set up that you cannot PM without accepting.  And if you accept and the book is not okay, then you lose your place in FIFO.   Or they lose their place in the WL.

This PM request is probably the most frequent cause for me to turn down RCs.  I'm glad you are able to laugh about it. 

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:23 PM ET
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The bindings have to match the ISBN that PBS says the binding is.  Otherwise it doesn't meet the postability conditions.

Ruth

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:25 PM ET
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I've gotten rid of the "smell" part because its too subjective.

But how do I tell people that I don't want dirty books so that it won't be subjective?    The rules are already subjective.    I could RWAP a book with "gook" and say it had a stain.    

I put the PM part because I've had people again turn me down with reasons that have nothing to do with what is written.    Maybe I'll remove it too.       

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:31 PM ET
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Add how to find you.  Your screen name.  Make sure you have a public profile.  Or don't ask for a PM.

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:33 PM ET
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"I really dislike it when someone asks me to PM them with questions if they do not include their screen name."

Are you saying to put your screen name inside of the RC statement?    Or is there some other way to do it?    I can understand not wanting to have to accept the RC, PM the person, then cancel the request, thus loosing the place in line (though a very large portion of the time I am asking for the only copy of something, though I suppose the person with the book doesn't know they have listed the only copy).    

My part about the PM me is only intend to tell them that I am receptive to questions in PMs, not that anyone should feel obligated.

Communication isn't easy.

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:37 PM ET
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The declining member could put their nickname and state in the declining note so that you could contact them.  I've done that as a declining sender.

Ruth

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:39 PM ET
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What kind of dirty books are you getting? Just curious. The only really dirty books I have recieved have had holes torn in the packaging.

Any books that have stains on them are already unpostable. i think dirt stains qualify.  You could change your RC to ask for "no sticker residue on cover" or something like that, if that is what you mean by gook.

Sticker residue is usually easily removed, though. When I get books with some kind of substance on the cover, as long as the substance hasn't damaged the book, I just clean the book without RWAPing it.  If the substance has damaged the book, I think the rules already cover it ... there is a rule for "no stains" ... which covers any dry mystery substance that can't be removed, and the rule for "no water or liquid damage" which covers any wet or wetish mystery substance which can't be removed. 

Dirt on the edges of a book is easily removed with a little bit of sandpaper. I have turned many a dirty book into a beautiful postable book with a little sandpaper. (Which, by the way, does not damage the pages edges at all, when properly done). You can't even tell that this repair has been made, usually.

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:40 PM ET
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Yes.  Put your screen name in the text of the RC.  With the line to PM you with questions.  That gives the option to PM before accepting or rejecting.

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 4:53 PM ET
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What if I edit to say this:

I do not want books that don't meet the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS, come from smoking homes, or are visibily dirty in a manner that I cannot clean off.    I'd prefer that you pass on the request if you think the book smells musty, but will not RWAP about the musty. 

Fiction: No x-library please

If you wish, you may PM me: Edith S (Curious) if you have a question.    I usually check and answer my PMs several times a day.

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Does this help the interpretation problem?    Those of you that automatically turn down PM requests, would you still automatically turn this down?



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Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:01 PM ET
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Usually its dirt on the top of the book that I am bothered by.  If its easily removable dirt, I don't care that much and don't RWAP.   I've even ignored stained stuff sent to me.  But specks of questionable matter that may be food or roach poo stuck on the top of the book where I can't clean it off without pushing into the the book, yuck.    I've never worried about stickers.   

I've decided to remove the statement about "taped back together" since what I'm talking about is already against the rules (heavily torn books) and the PB for an HB listing since its also against the rules.     I had added those statements to be helpful since people seem to be clueless that these are against the rules, but it seems I am loosing good books out of trying to be nice to people that don't know the rules.   

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:07 PM ET
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I think that RC is much better than the first one that you posted.  Playing devil's advocate here though when you say or are visibily dirty in a manner that I cannot clean off how am I supposed to know what you can and can not clean.  To me RCs work best when they present the conditions in a yes or no manner.  If you can not read an RC and easily answer yes or no to the conditions then many will be wary of accepting the request.  Also the first part of your RC I do not want books that don't meet the bugs me but that is just because I don't like the double negative. 

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:09 PM ET
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I'd suggest removing the PBS Criteria part and instead say what you don't want.

Mine says something like I do not want books that have writing or highlighting or currently in a smoking home. I had to add stains to that after as then I started getting stained books as it seems some members have no clue of the guidelines.

Maybe you could say something like " Please, do not send books currently in a smoking home, dirty or stained books, or water damaged books. Also if this is a fiction book, no former library books."

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:13 PM ET
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Edith,

I would leave this:

I do not want books that don't meet the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS, come from smoking homes, or are visibily dirty in a manner that I cannot clean off.    I'd prefer that you pass on the request if you think the book smells musty, but will not RWAP about the musty. 

Fiction: No x-library please

If you wish, you may PM me: Edith S (Curious) if you have a question.    I usually check and answer my PMs several times a day.

 

SOME may still decline because they are irritated by you reminding them to look at the PBS guidelines...but those aren't that common anyway I would guess.

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:15 PM ET
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"but could you specifically add an RC like "I only want HC books" for those books you only want HC of?  I have only sent out a few HCs and have never gotten a HC RC but if I had a PB and the ISBN matched and I had no reason to think it was supposed to be HC, I don't know how I'd feel about returning a credit either..."

The book listing identifies that it is HB.  For the book to match the listing it is attached to the format is supposed to match as well as the ISBN.   Sometimes HB and PB both have the same ISBN and then if a person's book doesn't match the type, they are supposed to enter the data manually.   Its an easy mistake to make and I'm expecting that I too will make it sometime and have to give a credit back, but the rules state that the book type has to match.   I just today told someone that they sent me the wrong format.   I didn't RWAP because of it or ask for a credit, just tried to help them understand that they were missing something, and they proceeded to give me a credit back anyway but then tell me it was my fault.   I'd rather they had kept the book credit and revised their understanding of the rules. 



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Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:20 PM ET
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The way a person finds out whether or not I can clean it off is to clean it off themselves LOL.     Okay, I'm going to change that to just "visibly dirty" and get rid of the other part.  Hopefully the person will think to try to clean off the dirt themselves if they really want the book credit.     

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:27 PM ET
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"I'd suggest removing the PBS Criteria part and instead say what you don't want."

To do that would require that I completely quote the rules and then add my very short list of additions which would then irritate all those folks that don't like to read long RC.  One person turned me down by saying "too many words".

I include a link to the PBS criteria because lots of folks don't seem to know that there is a criteria (really) and I want it to be really easy for them to find the criteria.

 

Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:36 PM ET
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Date Posted: 1/26/2010 5:37 PM ET
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2nd revision, minus double negative and "clean off" part:

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I only want books that meet the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS.

I do not want books that come from smoking homes or are visibily dirty.  I'd prefer that you pass on the request if you think the book smells musty, but will not RWAP about the musty.  

Fiction: No x-library please

If you wish, you may PM me: Edith S (Curious) if you have a question.    I usually check and answer my PMs several times a day.

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I put the "Fiction: No x-library please" separately and formatted that way because it seems to cause people less confusion that way.    When I put it in a sentence they seem to miss that I'm only talking about fiction.

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