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Bruce -
Subject: Gabaldon Voyager help
Date Posted: 12/5/2011 3:41 PM ET
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OK ladies, I've been a fan of the Outlander series but please tell me this book gets better. I am over 400 pages in - Claire has gone back in time,  found Jamie and his print shop just burned down. The first two books in the series consisted of battles, the struggle to the death between Jamie and Jack, clan politics, court intrigue, and lots of history. So far this one is reading like a cheap dime-store romance. It's cheesy and I feel dirty and used. Am I wasting my time?

Date Posted: 12/5/2011 4:37 PM ET
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Bruce, while I loved Voyager to bits, much of it is focused on the reunion of Jamie and Claire. IIRC things get pretty weird after they're hit by a storm at sea.

Bruce -
Date Posted: 12/5/2011 6:07 PM ET
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Ugh!

Date Posted: 12/5/2011 10:05 PM ET
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"It's cheesy and I feel dirty and used." lol Bruce! I know what you mean but have never seen this description before re a book! It sure sums it up and it definitely gets your point across. I haven't read the book and probably won't!

Date Posted: 12/5/2011 10:14 PM ET
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Oh no, don't tell me that! I'm about to start Outlander, and I am not typically one to enjoy dime-store romances. Now I'm all nervous to get started on this series, thinking mebbe I'll put it off a few more weeks.

Date Posted: 12/6/2011 1:00 AM ET
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Amiee these are anything but romancey novels.  But Jamie and Claire's love story drives these books no doubt. Seriously don't put them off they are still some of the best books I have ever read,

Bruce I am PM'ing you to avoid spoilers.

Date Posted: 12/6/2011 11:32 AM ET
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The terms cheesy and dime store romance are the LAST ones I wiould use to describe the Outlander series!  Trust me Bruce, as you continue in the series you will find lots more war, battles, blood and politics to keep you interested.  As well as romance, true love, family struggles, magic, mystery etc.  These books have it all which is why they are impossible to categorize.

Bruce -
Date Posted: 12/7/2011 12:19 PM ET
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Aimee, don't let me scare you off. The first two books were very good, I'm just having a hard time with the third but I'm going to stick it out and read the whole thing. I'll let you know if it was worth the while.

Date Posted: 12/7/2011 2:01 PM ET
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I started Outlander today, enjoying it so far!
Date Posted: 12/7/2011 2:02 PM ET
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Bruce, it's been years since I read any of this series.  Like others, I really, really enjoyed the first two books.  But I began to lose interest with Voyager, and quit the series after the fourth book.

Linda

Bruce -
Date Posted: 12/9/2011 8:09 PM ET
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Finally finished. Wow, I can't believe I slogged through that hot mess. Is there an award for masochistic reader of the year because anyone who read this book should be nominated. If Gabaldon inserted a plot in those thousand pages, I never found it.  I actually found myself not liking Jaime and Claire by the end of the book and wanting to flush them from my memory. I really like the first two books in the series which makes this bomb all the more disappointing. Gabaldon is a talented writer but she must have been sampling the grog and brandy while writing this one.

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 8:19 PM ET
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Bruce it seems like everyone's Gabaldon tolerance level is different.  She is maddeningly long winded at times  and able to impart at least for me enough to keep me coming back.  I give you huge kudos for even trying them!

Date Posted: 12/9/2011 8:44 PM ET
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Bruce, I adored the books but at the same time I can understand why others don't and very much appreciate the critical comments/reviews - matter of fact I enjoy reading some of the snarkier ones. Different strokes for different folks.

Date Posted: 12/13/2011 11:34 AM ET
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Bruce,

I sort of gave up on the books as well.  I ordered all of them brand new from Amazon after reading Outlander, loved the first two, labored through three and four and just can't get myself to start with book five.  My big turn-off is Brianna, I like Roger Wakefield (aka McKenzie), but just don't like the daughter (all the bad from both Jaime and Claire without the good).  So the series will gather dust on my reading shelf, until I will part with it ( I hate giving up on books).

I actually put Fiery Cross and Book 6 on my audiobook queue and see if I can finish the series as an audiobook. I started out with Outlander as an audiobook and loved it.  Maybe this series is just better as an audiobook.

Angie



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Date Posted: 12/13/2011 11:49 AM ET
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Angie I love the audio versions.  I listen to them all the time when I am cleaning my house or when I go to sleep at night love Davina Porters voice.  Sitting in traffic isn't so bad when your listening to a book.  :)

Date Posted: 12/13/2011 12:31 PM ET
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Hi Angie -- Welcome to the HF Forum. Like you (and several others), I really liked the first two Outlander books and found the next two less enthralling. I found some of the plot twists and action in Voyager preposterous which in a way almost made me appreciate the slower pace and tedium in Drums of Autumn. I do love Jamie -- just not sure that I want to spend the time and energy necessary for what seems to be increasingly less payoff. As Letty said, we all have different tolerance levels for Gabaldon -- I may have reached mine -- or maybe I just needed a break since I read the first four consecutively and in a short period. So...whether The Fiery Cross, which has been languishing on my bookshelf for some time, will make it to the top of the TBR stack is yet to be determined.



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Date Posted: 12/13/2011 12:37 PM ET
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Angie - totally, totally agree!  I did not like Brianna either and it turned me off from the series.  Picked up Fiery Cross about 6 times before I finally got through it.  Not quite as many times but it still took me a while to get through A Breathe of Snow and Ashes.  I have had Echo in the Bone for about 8 months.  Not sure I want to read it.  May try the audiobooks.  It has been such a long time between beginning and end that I really need to refresh the story. 

Date Posted: 12/13/2011 2:23 PM ET
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Actually the Outlander series is my first stab at that genre and I was totally awestruck by the first two books, I literally ate them up.  Then the others disappointed, so I decided to give Karen Monings Highlander Series a try. Haven't gotten to it yet, but some who read them loved them, so I may like it.

Is there another book like Outlander out there, that you all know of?

Date Posted: 12/13/2011 6:23 PM ET
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If Gabaldon inserted a plot in those thousand pages, I never found it.  
 

Bruce, toooooooo funny--ROF!

 

I really like the series, although I will admit there are parts where she gets wierd---I am dedicated enough to slog through them, although Breath of Snow and Ashes was tough.....Outlander is still the crown jewel, though, and it has to be tough to follow a blockbuster...

Date Posted: 12/13/2011 6:51 PM ET
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I loved Karen Marie Monings Highlander series.  Her Fever series is one of my favorites too though not any where close to historical fiction.  It was a bit out there but couldn't read them fast enough.  Hope you enjoy her Highlanders.  Another good Highlander series is by Janet Chapman.

Date Posted: 12/13/2011 10:10 PM ET
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Angie it what way "like" Outlander. the time period, the time travel?  I love the Into the Wildreness series by Sarah Donati.

Date Posted: 12/14/2011 8:20 AM ET
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Jerelyn,

I love the time period and place and the fact that a modern days girl is traveling back.  I actually did a vacation in the Scottish Highlands and did get to see all the places mentioned in 'Outlander', ie. Culloden, Edinburgh, Inverness.  But that was before I read the series, so I looked at it differently.  Still I loved it, even though I never met men as handsome as described in the novels. (Go figure!)

By the way can anyone explain something to me that happens in the Outlander.  Before Claire 'falls back' into the past, when she first gets to Inverness and has her honeymoon in the B & B inn, there is a night when there is a storm and her husband Frank is coming back from a meeting. He then encounters a 'ghost' of a Highland Warrior looking up at the lit windows at Claire, before disappearing down the street.  I read four outlander books to get that incident explained and haven't found it yet.  It can't really be Jamie travelling forward to the future, because Jamie cannot travel trough time.  Only people from the future can travel back, like Claire and Roger and Brianna.  Also Jamie did not know Claire yet, cause she hadn't travelled back yet. 

Can any of you Outlander experts explain that one to me?

Thank you

Angie

 



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Date Posted: 12/14/2011 9:06 AM ET
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Nope.  Gabaldon said years ago that it will be the last thing in the series, or something like that.  So lord knows how long she's going to drag this out, but it does seem she has a conclusion ... or had one.  Things can change.

Date Posted: 12/14/2011 9:47 AM ET
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I PM'ed you Angie.