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Subject: The Giver (Spoiler)
Date Posted: 3/17/2011 4:02 PM ET
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Hey Everybody!

I just finished reading the giver for the first time.  Wonderful book.  I'd love to hear:

-Your favorite parts of the book

-What do you think of the ending?

Mostly I am curious to hear what people think of the ending.  I don't know what to make of it.  I guess this is my way to process the book.  I'd love your help.

 

Date Posted: 4/7/2011 9:55 AM ET
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I promise not to bite.  I really am curious to know what people think of the ending and the book in general.

Date Posted: 5/9/2011 11:43 AM ET
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Is this in the wrong area?  I revoke my promise.  I will start biting people if no one responds.  laugh  I only smile to show how sharp my teeth are.  Tell me what you think about The Giver.

Matt C. (mattc) - ,
Date Posted: 5/9/2011 4:32 PM ET
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I read it, but I don't really have anything much to say.  I had no strong feelings one way or the other.  To be honest I don't remember the ending that clearly.  I think the kid was dying and having some sort of hallucination or fantasy near death, but I am a little fuzzy.  Plus, I heard there was a sequel, so I withhold judgment.  The societal setup reminded me strongly of Anthem by Ayn Rand.

Date Posted: 5/10/2011 2:31 PM ET
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Thanks Matt!  Yea, the ending is hazy and open ended.  I've heard there is a follow up book as well, but I haven't read it.  I really enjoyed the "utopia" theme of the book too.  I'll have to check out Anthem.

Date Posted: 5/17/2011 2:53 PM ET
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Anybody else?

Date Posted: 5/17/2011 3:48 PM ET
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I read The Giver back in grade school, so  I really don't remember it very well, other than I found quite a few scenes - especially the baby and the incenerator - quite disturbing.  Like Matt, I also gathered that Jonas was hallucinating right before death at the end. 

It's the first in a trilogy.  The 2nd is Gathering Blue, and the 3rd is Messenger.  Messenger supposedly has a character or two from The Giver so you might want to read the next two books if you haven't yet.  They might clear up the hazy ending.

Date Posted: 5/19/2011 11:25 AM ET
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Yes, the baby and the incenerator is heart breaking.  Lies, lies, lies, in the perfect world. 

So do people think Jonas dies at the end?  I guess if Jonas is in the 2nd and/or 3rd book we would know for sure if he lived.  I will have to get on those and find out.  If anybody knows from reading the next books I would love to hear.

Date Posted: 5/23/2011 1:52 PM ET
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spoiler....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that Jonas did die in the end...(but that doesn't really mesh with books 2 and 3)

the companion novels are not about Jonas but he is a character in them.

Date Posted: 5/24/2011 11:01 AM ET
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Yea, I just wanted to make sure anybody that clicked on this wouldn't be shocked to find that we are talking about the ending.  I dislike very much when people disclose the ending of a book/movie I wanted to read/watch.  I stll don't know what I think about the ending. 

Date Posted: 5/24/2011 11:08 AM ET
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Oh!  Haha, I didn't realize that you posted at the bottom as well. 

Thanks Britney!  That is very interesting indeed.  So Jonas IS in the sequels.  I guess the question is; "Can you kill a character and bring them back for the sequels?"  I wouldn't think so...

Date Posted: 5/25/2011 9:00 AM ET
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In one of the companion novels he's more of a character than the other, IIRC.

I didn't like the companion novels. The Giver should have been left a standalone. (They're not really sequels as they're about other societies that coexist with Jonas's.)



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Date Posted: 6/4/2011 8:27 PM ET
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I'll bite!

I thought in the end that the boy and the baby either died together and their passage to a 'better world' was the last hill down to the warm Christmasy house, or that they only just survived to reach what would become their new home.

My daughter says that since their memories were released out to the people in the land, that the Giver boy had died, but he'd managed to get the baby Gabriel to a safe place even if he himself had died along the way.

It's been a little while since I read it, I hope I got that right. I also don't go on the duscussion boards that much, excpet the general discussion ones. But this is interesting!

Date Posted: 6/7/2011 3:15 PM ET
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Thanks Britney!  Good to know.  It is funny when someone tells you a book or a movie isn't that good I usually go and read or see it anyway.  What is that?  Thanks for the heads up that they are not truly sequels, but co-existing type story lines.

Date Posted: 6/7/2011 3:16 PM ET
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Thanks Lora!  That is really interesting.  If they died the memory would be released to the community...I'll have to think about that one.  Thanks for joining the talk!

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 7:16 AM ET
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Yeah, my daughter says that releasing the memories showed that the boy died because earlier in the book a short reference was made to a girl giver and that when she died, memories were released into the population. She also believes that the girl was the old Giver's daughter, but I forget why she says that.

Date Posted: 6/23/2011 9:42 AM ET
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That's right!  Hmm.  I like figuring this out, although my desire for the boy to live is going to make it hard for me to get a different answer.

Date Posted: 6/24/2011 10:25 PM ET
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Isn't that just so? I struggled the same way. Then I decided that on some days when I thought about it, I would decide he had lived. Then on other days, I would decide he had not. Fence sitting is a real talent!