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Subject: Giving away free trade sized paperback that might be on WL
Date Posted: 8/27/2008 12:15 PM ET
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I'm running a permanent 3 for 2 deal.  Can I list postable trade sized paperbacks that could/could not be WLed in my signature for the third free book.  I don't want to check first to see if they are WLed.

Deborah

 

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 12:32 PM ET
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I don't see why not but why don't you want to list possible WL'd books?

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 12:33 PM ET
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I'm not entirely certain what the rules are for advertising in your signature.  In the Book Bazaar (regarding posts there) the guidelines say:      "(6) No trying to jump the Wish List "line" by offering or asking for postable Wish Listed books.  Postable Wish Listed books should be posted and swapped "officially"."  I would think the overall PBS policy would be similar, that postable Wish Listed books should be posted.  You don't technically have to check first to see if they're Wish Listed, you know.  You could just post them and see what comes up on WL Hold.

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 12:44 PM ET
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I don't know James....you can post books directly to someone's shelf, and you can offer freebies in the bazzar, so as long as she isn't getting extra credits or anything, then I can't see that she would be breaking any rules.  As long as you don't violate the rule about each book being worth no more than one credit, it seems like it wouldn't be a problem.

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 12:51 PM ET
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The ability to post directly to someone's Wish List is always a point of contention in this discussion, Amanda.  However, there is a difference between posting the book to someone who's been wishing for it and just putting it up for grabs.  And you actually can't offer postable Wish List books as freebies in the Book Bazaar, only damaged/unpostable ones.



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Date Posted: 8/27/2008 12:58 PM ET
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Offering a postable WL in the Book Bazaar is not allowed. (Its not really free, you are asking for credits for it when it requires orders from your shelf so you are really just tossing in another book with the WLed one). However, your signature line is not subject to the Book Bazaar rules. I wouldn't suggest going in there and setting up a post just so your siggy line shows though.

I think the site allows posting to others because people wanted to send books to people they knew. I don't think it is encouraged to advertise WL books anywhere on the site, but the only place it is in writing is the BB.

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 1:05 PM ET
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While it is not in writing anywhere, I think offering a postable WL book would be frowned upon. The FIFO system is in place so it is fair for everyone. I would consider this line jumping and would be upset if I was patiently waiting for the book and someone else got it simply because they saw the post before I did.

Just my 2 cents.

 

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 2:13 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/27/2008 2:33 PM ET
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i have a question. if you have a series of books where most or all are wl. are you able to ask if anyone has more than one on their wl so that you can save on postage? my guess would be no, which is why i usually post one and check that persons wl before i post any others

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 2:38 PM ET
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Deborah,

Suggestion: Place a message about your permanent 3-for-2 deal in your signature line, and you can also create a post about it in the Book Bazaar. Then, post all of your available books into the system. This way, any wishlisted books will be grabbed by the system for the first person in line, while people going through your bookshelf will only see those books available in FIFO.

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 3:24 PM ET
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The whole reason for this is that I don't want to check 50+ boxes of 25-40 books to see if they are WLed.  From all the previous posts I've read there is no way to check without listing all the books, then pulling the ones back off that aren't WLed.  I just wanted to offer all my trade sized books as freebies with an order.

Deborah

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 3:52 PM ET
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you could always post them all and if any WL books are there, tell that member about your deal. if not, just post that you are offering trade size books as freebies when X amount of books is ordered. and they have the option where you can list multiple isbn numbers at one time, making it quicker

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 4:00 PM ET
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Deborah, you can post them to your TBR, then post from there to your bookshelf. You can sort the TBR by "date added", so you can review all the books together. I like checking that way. It's very easy (plus, if I'm short on shipping cash, I can limit the number of WL books I post that way!).

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 5:18 PM ET
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If you're going to send them out anyway, why not post them all. Then the WL books will be offered to those waiting and you can run a deal on what's left.  If you're going to take the time to put the book names in a post or your signature why not just post them? It only takes a few seconds to post a book. 

 

Stephanie:  When I have more than one WL book from a series, I usually check out the forum for that genre and check the WL of people who post there.  Many times I find someone who has more than one.

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 6:37 PM ET
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mary that is a great idea. i never thought of that

Date Posted: 8/27/2008 9:10 PM ET
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Deborah - you can also go over to the BB and PM Bernie, for a definitive answer to all things BB related.

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 8:34 AM ET
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Jane,

Can you explain a little more.  That sounds like a good idea.  I am not trying to keep anyone from getting a WLed book, I just couldn't figure out how to do this and make sure any of the WLed books (IF ANY ARE WL) in the pile of several hundred books didn't get listed as a freebie.  Did that make sense?  I just listed 30 more books, so take a peek.

 

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 1:18 PM ET
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As soon as you post the book, you'll know if it's WL. It'll either go on WL hold for 48hrs or it'll go into 1hr buyer's remorse if it's on autorequest. No one else will be able to see the book on your shelf. So no one will be able to ask for it as a freebie if it's on WL hold. Is that what you were worried about?  Or if you're not ready to post them yet, put the on the TBR like someone suggested and then post them from there when you are ready.

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 2:10 PM ET
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I already have a list of ALL these books by title and author from when I had a bookstore.  What I wanted to do was NOT type in all the ISBNs to see if any of them are wishlisted, we're talking 50 boxes of 50 at least.  It's possible that not even one of these is WLed !!  I wanted to use these trade sized books (more expensive) as the freebies in my 3 for 2 deals. 

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:09 PM ET
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oops, ignore me :)



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Date Posted: 8/28/2008 4:26 PM ET
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Suggested but not necessarily recommended (otherwise known as I've never done this, but it should work):

1. Make a text file of the ISBNs from your trade-sized books. Use Notepad if you're using Windows, 1 ISBN per line.

2. Go to "Post Books" and click on "Post a list of ISBNs"

3. Go to your bookshelf, choose to sort by Date Posted in descending order. That will put the books you just posted at the beginning of the list.

4. Put a check mark by each book you just posted that is NOT flagged as WL, then delete them.

Now they are not on your shelf, you can list them as freebies without worrying if they're on a WL

Date Posted: 8/29/2008 6:56 AM ET
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You could post a few until you come up with a wishlisted book, and then stop.  When the book is requested, PM the person with an offer.

Date Posted: 8/29/2008 12:07 PM ET
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Mary, I would STILL have to go through 50 boxes of 50 and type in all the ISBNs !!  Here is the reply I got from Bernie after she checked with the powers that be:

Ok, sorry it took so long. Its ok. With that amount of books to check, its not going to be a big issue if you have your deal up.

The prohibition about posting Wish Listed books in Book Bazaar and doing "unofficial" deals for them is really to prevent members from auctioning off their books and being consistently unfair to wishing members, when only a few books are involved. But since you have a huge amount of them, its not a biggie.

 

 

Date Posted: 8/29/2008 1:15 PM ET
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glad you got an answer!

Date Posted: 8/29/2008 1:39 PM ET
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Sorry, when you said you had a list, I guess I assumed ISBNs were on it.

Sounds like you had a positive outcome, anyway!

ETA: The best investment I ever made was a modified :CueCat bar-code reader so I can swipe books and have the ISBN entered in a text file automagically. I can't say I've ever dealt with 50 boxes of books but it makes short work of the boxes I get from Freecycle or estate sales. I LOVE that I can post a box of books at a time!



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