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Subject: Good bye I love you tag?
Date Posted: 8/15/2008 11:23 PM ET
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And Mafia childhood tag?  Both of these by multiple members on a historical romance-and by historical I mean Regency England not 1930's New York.  So nonsense tags like this are allowed by not personal ones? 

(I've seen the good-by I love you tag on more than one book that seem to have nothing in common)

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 7:20 AM ET
Member Since: 5/29/2007
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Did I miss something? (I probably did), but I have always been under the impression that anyone can use the tag option for anything.  One can put whatever they want on tags.  I believed, after reading up on tags, some time ago, that personal tags are allowed, any tags are allowed (I mean, not profanity, probably), but anything one wanted. 

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 9:37 AM ET
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Ok but now we're supposed to report tags that are inappropriate for the book.  Not like someone's personal tag. But when I click on this tag it takes me to the book Goodbye I love you.  I'm just wondering what relevance it has to an historical romance. They are trying to discourage the use of personal tags. 

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 10:57 AM ET
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I don't understand why they are discouraging the use of personal tags.  I was under the impression that the more popular tags would over-ride any personal tags but personal tags would still be viewable from the tagger.  So, the only personal tags that would remain would be those tags that hadn't gotten over-ridden by a more popular tag.

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 12:02 PM ET
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Personal tags are fine!!! It's tags like "damaged" and "this book is for Bob only...DO NOT ORDER" that aren't okay. Help center doc:

 

What kind of words should I use as tags?

 

You can make Personal Tags or Club-Useful tags.

 

  • A Club-Useful tag uses words and phrases that describe the content of the book. See examples of Club-Useful tags below.
    • When coming up with a Useful tag, ask yourself "What words will other members search for to find books like this?"
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  • A Personal tag has meaning only for the tagger.  See examples of Personal tags.
    • Members can use these, but there is almost always a better way to do what you're trying to accomplish.
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  • An Inappropriate tag is one that describes a particular copy of a book, or that is scatalogical (these are never appropriate!), or that actually impedes other members' use of the club.  See examples of Inappropriate tags.

   

Examples of Useful Tags:

 

Historical Fiction, Newbery Medal Winner, Nobel prize-winning author, Set in Spain, Catholicism, Baseball History

 

    Examples of Personal Tags:

 

pjfb, 11/13 on 0708,  15 36, hmmm, 11/13, etc.

 

These have meaning only for the tagger.  They will not be useful to the other members of the club.

 

Done, Wish List, TBR, RL, BIR, JohnRL, MarysTBR, Traded, My TBR, John-bookshelf, Sent, etc.

 

        Note that many of these tags are redundant.  The On My:  section of search listings and My Lists serve the purpose of most of them. 

 

    Examples of Inappropriate Tags:

 

cover has small tear, No Dust Jacket, some yellowed pages, autographed, etc.

 

       These tags apply do not apply to EVERY copy of the book, only one.  

 

Do not order

 

     Put yourself in the shoes of a new member who finds a book she'd like to order bearing this tag!      

 

Posted for John S. only - all other requests will be canceled!

 

       Egregious inappropriate use of tags (and of the site)! This tag appears to apply to every copy of the book, so no one will request it. A tag like this will also likely get your account suspended for Terms of Use violations.

 

If you have created any inappropriate tags, you should delete them. Otherwise, they will start to disappear without warning as other members report them as inappropriate! See below for more information about reporting tags as inappropriate.

 

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 1:53 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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Personal tags are still fine, except for the fact that the people reporting them don't understand that so they are all disappearing.  I really think PBS should not have them automatically disappear after so many reports. They encouraged us to use the Tags for personal tagging, they should be doing a little more to protect thse tags with the system change. Might take a little of their time to review tags befor they disappear, but not near the amount of time people have put into those tags.



Last Edited on: 8/16/08 2:18 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 8/16/2008 2:54 PM ET
Member Since: 7/31/2007
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Doesn't matter what the tag is if it is personal, they are discouraging the use of personal tags period.  They have reduced my use of them by adding the "On My" thingy to show up when you are looking at someone's Bookshelf and they are going to check into it showing up when you look at someone's Wishlist...all this in an effort to reduce the need of personal tags.

They are also discussing putting the "yellow diamond" on the WL page so that you can keep your note of place in the WL line there instead of cluttering up the tags with that information.



Last Edited on: 8/16/08 2:59 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 8/16/2008 10:08 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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So should I report the mafia tag and the goodbye I love you tags that seem to have nothing to do with the books they're on?

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 10:35 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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Only if you know for a fact that they are inappropriate to the book (ie mafia reference when there is no mafia ties in the book what-so-ever). Unless something is obviously wrong or inappropriate, please don't report tags. Tags being reported just because people don't understand the point of them is what is going wrong with the new system. Please, everyone, read the help section on what is an inappropriate and mark only those.

Doesn't matter what the tag is if it is personal, they are discouraging the use of personal tags period. - The help docs still say personal tags are fine. Most are not ones that they classify under the inappropriate section.

 

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 10:41 AM ET
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I wonder if Mafia Childhood is the name of a book club and those tagged books are the books they have read?

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 3:31 PM ET
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Ok I just saw the mafie childhood tag on another historical romance (again regency england and not 1930's NY).  When I click on either of these tags it takes me to the book w/that name. The mafia one takes you to a book called "A Mafia Childhood" or something similar and the "Goodbye, I love You" takes you to that book.  So why are they on these historicals and should they be reported?  Not t

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 3:31 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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Ok I just saw the mafie childhood tag on another historical romance (again regency england and not 1930's NY).  When I click on either of these tags it takes me to the book w/that name. The mafia one takes you to a book called "A Mafia Childhood" or something similar and the "Goodbye, I love You" takes you to that book.  So why are they on these historicals and should they be reported?  Not that I want to jump on the report tags bandwaggon but these seem like inappropriate tags.  I personally don't care if someone tags their books as being in a certain room of their house or on their RL list or whatever.  I know that doesn't pertain to every copy of the book.  But if I were say looking for books on the mafia and a book was tagged as being mafia related-I would be annoyed if I searched that tag and it was loaded with non-mafia books.  KWIM?



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