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Subject: "Great" Editing
Date Posted: 7/31/2009 10:51 PM ET
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I just read "Christmas Affairs" an anthology by Helen Bianchin, Sandra Marton, and Sharon Kendrick. On the back cover the blurb for Helen Bianchin's contribution says the book is about Anique and Sebastian. When I started to read the book the main character's name is Anneke. So I looked at the back of the book to see if I had read the wrong blurb but I had not. I guess when you say the name Anique and Anneke they are pronounced the same way. I have read some mistakes in books but this is the worst I have seen. What "great" editing have you guys come across?
Date Posted: 7/31/2009 11:52 PM ET
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Categories are notoriously bad.  I remember one with a back cover blurb abou how the hero discovers on their wedding night that the heroine is a virgin. Not only wasn't she a virgin, but they didn't get married in the course of the book. :-\

Date Posted: 8/1/2009 1:48 PM ET
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not really an editing error (more the publisher just not paying attention, or caring) - but one of my huge pet peeves is when the the cover photo does not even come close to the physical description. Like when the heroine has blonde hair, and the cover shows a brunette or if the hero has a scar on his face, but the cover shows a perfect image. Don't know why that bugs me so much, but it does!

Date Posted: 8/1/2009 2:25 PM ET
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And if the heroine is supposed to be heavy, they invariably make the cover model as rail thin as humanly possible, in some weird pyshcological ploy.

Date Posted: 8/1/2009 2:29 PM ET
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It bugs me too, Cindy. And also when they picture a cover thal looks like a historical romance by the dress or whatever and it turns out to be a contemporary one.

Date Posted: 8/1/2009 3:02 PM ET
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Oh the cover thing is a big pet peeve for me. If you are going to use people either real or drawn on teh cover then at least make them match somewhat. 

 Or when they make a really sexy cover where the couple are practically making love and there's no sex in teh book.



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Date Posted: 8/1/2009 3:47 PM ET
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Oh yeah, count me in on the cover thing too!  C'mon, at least get the hair color and type right.  If the hero has long hair, don't show a guy with a super-short haircut.  If the heroine has curly hair, don't show someone with straight hair.

Date Posted: 8/1/2009 6:00 PM ET
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I just read & adored Since the Surrender by Julie Anne Long, and it had bunches of them (details are in the review).  They were so silly.  Whoever did the editing was a slob, but it is still a fantastic book - which kinda makes the oversights more annoying, IMO.  That could spoil it for people who tend to stumble over little editing errors when they run across them.

Date Posted: 8/1/2009 11:15 PM ET
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consistency - I read one book where her boyfriend was in the navy, then the marines and then with special forces (which is army- green beret or rangers)

Another book the person age changed and they had children - didn't have children - yikes - messes up the story

Date Posted: 8/2/2009 7:54 AM ET
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One of my huge pet peeves is when the the cover photo does not even come close to the physical description. Like when the heroine has blonde hair, and the cover shows a brunette.

Ditto!   One of the worst examples that I have seen of this is Sundays at Tiffany's by James Patterson.  The heroine in this romance is blond, which is stated in the first few pages of the book.  But the illustration on the front, while very dreamy and otherwise appropriate for the novel, shows a woman with brunette, almost black, hair.   You would think that an author as popular as James Patterson would rate an illustrator who bothers to read the book!

Date Posted: 8/2/2009 9:49 AM ET
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I hate when the covers are really wrong too - so many times it's the hair color that's off. Or the length (where the book makes the point of the hero having longish hair and in the cover the hero's hair is really short).

Since I write (technical documents) and edit for a living, sloppy editing drives me nuts! I don't mind the minor bad edits (a missing word for example) but I remember in one book - Deal With This by Lucy Monroe - there was an instance when the hero, named Alan, was referred to as Ethan (who was the hero in the previous book); a character named Jacob was referred to as Simon, and the heroine's stepfather, had the name Stanley, then Dan, and then back to Stanley.

Date Posted: 8/2/2009 11:51 AM ET
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I hate it when people don't age properly in teh books.  Like in the prologue they'll be 10 and it's 1852 but then when the books jumps to 1865 they are only 20 or something like that. It's like the author forgot how old the character was intended to be. 

You know how frequently they put excerts from other books in the back?  Brava is big on doing this. Well I  read one recently, I forget the book, but there's was the "Wow and excerpt from so and so's next book" and it was an excerpt from the book I just read.  Gee thanks.

Date Posted: 8/2/2009 11:54 AM ET
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A Promise of Roses by Heidi Betts-this stands out to me about the hair color thing.  The cover is beautiful. Too bad the heroine actually has black hair and not blonde. 

I read another book recently where the hero had long blonde hair on the cover and the hero actually had short black hair and a beard.

Date Posted: 8/3/2009 3:31 AM ET
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I just finished reading Cara Summers' Blaze from June, "Twin Temptation," about twins who were separated at birth and are now forced to swap lives for a few weeks (think an R-rated "Parent Trap"!).  Anyway, one of the sisters is from a New Mexico ranch, and she mentions that her neighbor is "like an older brother."

In the description for "Twin Seduction" from July (and don't even get me started on the sentence fragments!): 

 

Jordan Ware has always had Wild West fantasies. But she's more Jimmy Choo than Tony Lama. Until her long-lost twin sister arrives and they switch places! Jordan heads to Santa Fe. And ends up bunking down with her twin's hunky fiancé!

 

Older brother, huh?  Glad I'm not part of that family!

Date Posted: 8/3/2009 7:28 PM ET
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Im not getting the "older brother" part out of that.  What am I missing?

Date Posted: 8/3/2009 8:19 PM ET
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Sorry, guess I didn't provide enough details.  The "city" twin bunks down with the "country" twin's neighbor, who's "like an older brother" to the country twin, not her "hunky fiance," as the back cover claims.

Date Posted: 8/3/2009 8:23 PM ET
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OK missed that the 1st time I read it.  I actually like that plot line where 2 long time friends fall in love. Although technically it's the twin that was his long time friend.

Date Posted: 8/8/2009 6:54 PM ET
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I've seen plenty of editing mistakes in the text, but cover mistakes are my pet peeve and that's the worst one I've heard of.  At least spell the heroine's name correctly!  Cheesy cover art is another pet peeve of mine.  If they're going to do people, at least get them to look SOMEWHAT SIMILAR  to the main characters.  There might be one sex scene in the  (400 page) book and the cover makes it look as though the book is soft porn.  That's one of the reasons I bought my bookmates book cover--so I don't have to be ashamed to take my romance books out in public!!!

 

I guess it's the (usually male) publishing company execs that decide what goes on the cover and the authors have no control over it.  Sad. 

Date Posted: 8/12/2009 8:03 AM ET
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I just finished Noelle Mack's "Juicy." On the back cover blurb, the main male character is named Tom Claybourne. Yet throughout the actual novel, his name is Jasper "Jaz." Not a single Tom in sight. Are you SERIOUS?!! If you're gonna pay the money to get a book published, at least make sure that the characters' names in the book match the ones given on the jacket blurb!
Date Posted: 8/14/2009 3:06 PM ET
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i was looking through the local FOL shelf yesterday, and came across a paranormal romance by an author i'd never heard of.  i picked it up, and got about three sentences into the excerpt inside the front cover when i ran into "There eyes locked", and it went back on the shelf.

if that made it into the excerpt that's supposed to help sell the book, i shudder to think about the rest of it.

Date Posted: 8/17/2009 10:17 AM ET
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Reading Cindy Gerard's "To the Limit" (Bodyguards #2). There is a secondary character whose name flip-flops between Roger and Richard throughout the book. Little things like that are soooooo distracting!

Hey! Authors and editors... Please, please, please learn how to use search and replace!

Colleen

Date Posted: 8/17/2009 2:18 PM ET
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Ok, I've got one that has been perplexing me for a couple of years now, and I guess this is a good place to bring it up, and I know a lot of folks here are Outlander fans.  What follows is a possible spoiler, so if you haven't read Outlander and don't want to know, don't read any further.

In Outlander, after all that business with Geillis, Claire finds out that Geillis was in the 18th century after having gone back there from 1969.  I remember the scene where she is told that by Dougal, who Geillis asked to give Claire the message, and he said it like one-nine-six-nine.  However, in the next book, Dragonfly in Amber, when they find her in Inverness and actually witness her go back, it is 1967.  I have been all over Gabaldon's website and can't find any mention of the discrepancy.  I've always been curious if this was an editing error, if I'm missing something, or maybe the particular editions of my books have errors?  Did anyone else notice this, and do you know what's up with that?  I actually have checked two versions of Dragonfly in Amber- the first one I read was a mmpb, then I got the trade size, but they both say 1967.  My version of Outlander says 1969.  As much as I love the series, this issue has always bugged me.  Just wondered if anyone else had noticed that.

Date Posted: 8/18/2009 10:44 AM ET
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Currently reading The Duke's Cinderella Bride by Carole Mortimer, and it's not discrepancies between cover and text that are bugging me (there are none so far), but rather the style that an editor should have slapped out of the writer with a merciless pen LONG AGO. I don't think a page goes by without an orgy of adverbs. I feel like I'm reading a Harry Potter book! Arrgh! It's more of a pet peeve than bad grammar, but it's a really infantile & unimaginative style. For example, in one scene over the course of a few pages:

Jane wondered dazedly
he came back tersely
he taunted scornfully
he confirmed coldly
his tone hardened icily
she met his gaze unflinchingly
Her brows rose coolly
his voice had softened warningly
He nodded dourly
Jane bristled indignantly
Hawk continued frostily
he came back tersely
That arrogant mouth twisted knowingly
he continued grimly
Her eyes widened incredulously
he confirmed impatiently

Date Posted: 8/18/2009 11:27 AM ET
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Gosh, Karla, you're so sourly complaining that I must begrudgingly admire your doggedly reading through this poorly written book. '-D

Colleen

 

Date Posted: 8/18/2009 1:12 PM ET
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Karla, I know that author's HPs well. :-\  (Some are better than others, which is why I still try her.) Lee Wilksonson is even worse, she uses the same sentence constructs so unceasingly, reading her books is like listenening to a constant drone of rat-a-tat tat.  I don't even try her anymore.

And then there's the rash of exclamation points! Everywhere! Even on really boring, random sentences!  I remember wondering if that was just an editotorial fad from the past, because the author I was reading didn't do it in all her books, and right after that I noticed that in the list of upcoming books, there were several with exclamation points in the title.

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